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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 11:23:17 PM »
Kristi, thanks so  for looking it up and replying.  I've not got the book and was hoping someone with the book would be able to confirm.

I hope you had a wonderful time travelling - I admit I feel slightly envious  :)  By the time I get to any of the Museums I would love to go to, most glass will be identified and I wont have any surprises to discover on my own.

Thanks once again.  I very much appreciate it.  The book is on my hit list.
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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 11:41:09 PM »
yup, I think it looks like harrach as well.  I got to spend 3 weeks in Cz this spring. it's awesome isn't it! I want to go back.

I can't reach my copy of the book (I am maine coon'd)  but is this the one  you're talking about Kristi?

http://www.thegildedcurio.com/item-513.html


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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 01:02:13 AM »
 :-\  I don't see the similarity at all with that one Alisa.
My vase seems to be identical to the vase Brian Severn posted on his blog that I linked to except that the transfers are different.
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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2012, 01:03:20 AM »
the decor of the woman in front of the braiser. not the glass.


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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 01:04:48 AM »
does yours have a transfer or is it hand painted? the ones I've seen have been hand painted.


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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 01:16:03 AM »
http://www.glasscollector.net/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/DB288VasesCU1.jpg
This is the one on Brian's blog. I think that is transfer decorated.  Or am I wrong?  My vase is identical in shape and coloration, just some of the gilded bands are a little worn.  My picture I believe is transfer decorated with possibly hand gilding, but I think that is also done with a transfer - there is a type of transfer process described in C.Hajdamach's book that I believe these are done with.  I think they are the same but just a different picture.
I've put some close ups of mine earlier in the thread.
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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 01:20:37 AM »
Sorry, just adding more to my reply directly above -
I am 100% sure mine is the same vase as Brian's and I'm also 99.99% sure mine is transfer done and I think his is also - possibly a process slightly differently applied to how I might think of as transfer, but I'm sure it is.
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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2012, 01:31:33 AM »
yup, it is a transfer. learn something new every day. I never noticed these were transfers before. (I don't have one from the line you have). the ones I have with similar decoration (I collect hyalith) are hand painted in plain terracotta so I assumed all would be hand painted.


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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 01:41:39 AM »
deleted links. if anyone wants to see em they can PM me. :)


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Re: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 01:44:12 AM »
(Written before the last 3, no 4! posts, but still applies, I think...)

Yep, my trip was awesome.  Saw loads of glass.  Made it to Passau, which was extraordinary.

It seems that most of these "Etruscan" style designs were done with transfer prints, or a combination of transfer and painting, regardless of manufacturer.  Although the two images on Alissa's matching vases are slightly different, I'm betting that they are at least partly transfers.

The design shown in the book is apparently exactly the same as the one in the OP, just a mirror image.  The vase it's on is very similar in coloring, too, though not quite the same shape.  Unless the English and Bohemians shared transfers, I think it's safe to say this is Harrach.
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