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Author Topic: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or older? ID = Touchard  (Read 1972 times)

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3 5/8" wide and 5/8" high, rim thickness 3mm.  My thoughts were it might be new but I cannot find any references at all. It's well done, not flashed, a solid layer of red glass which can be seen in the cut edges, acid etched textured background which is quite grey.  Very well finished, no rough bits, sharp edges etc.  For a small piece it's very sweet and the decoration of one colour on clear has been utilised well in the design.
So I can't find any references for new and wondered if there was any possibility it might be older than I think?
thanks for looking and any leads  or links if there is newer stuff around :)
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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:30:13 PM »
any thoughts on whether or not this could be Bohemian or Czechosovakian maybe?  I'm just thinking the colours are typical and the design also maybe? 
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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 12:33:54 PM »
 ;D
The close-up does not look like a close-up of contemporary Chinese Cameo... but that's all I can think of.
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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 11:49:25 PM »
gentle bump :)

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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2012, 09:00:14 AM »
On page 351 of Cappa Le Genie Verrier d'L'Europe there is a vase by Cristallerie de Nancy, that seems to use this dark red very flat glossy cameo on an acid etched cameo vase.  The design detail is also stylised like the pin dish although a different decoration. The difference is that the vase is very thick and deep cut, but could that be put down to a difference in size of the piece? 
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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2012, 11:13:28 AM »
To me it whispers "Belgium".

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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 11:17:29 AM »
Thanks Ivo, I'll have a look round.
p.s. Belgium old or more contemporary please?  any thoughts? I think it's old but there's not a lot to go on to be honest.
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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 11:37:52 AM »
Twenties, thirties and specific VSL. But not a shred of evidence, of course.

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Re: small shallow cameo glass pin dish - new Chinese? or any poss of older?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 12:22:21 PM »
no  ;D of course not..but then it wouldn't be fun if there were.
thanks for the lead/ideas
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Scailmont or Catteau maybe?  though it isn't marked and the design is more 'natural' than the geometric designs I've come across.
Any thoughts much appreciated as always :)
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