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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 06:07:39 PM »
I could pretend it was a bowl...
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2012, 12:44:32 AM »
I agree - not Monart.

However, what's this? -
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..........and Monart never fire polished their rims.

Really? I'm wondering if a stray word got in there Gary??  ;) :)

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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2012, 08:33:31 AM »
You got me there Nigel  :), Monart rarely fire polished,is what I should have said, one shape that I know of and that is shape WK.
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2012, 08:35:06 AM »
Do you mean Monart rarely fire polished their lampshade rims?  How did they finish them usually please?
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2012, 11:27:37 AM »
Very little has been written or published on Monart lighting, apart from I Turner's article in The Journal of The Glass Association and Frank's Ysart glass site and both of these need updating to some extent.
Monart lighting be it the type of- uplighter (image 1) downlighter (image 2) or lamps (image 3) are fairly  rare. So far to date I have not seen any lampshades fire polished, I have two Monart post war mushroom lamps, one pre war lamp base (shape P/13) and two pre war uplighters and none of these are fire polished. Much more research needs to be done on Monart lighting.
Image 2 is infact a Vasart piece which I used as an example of a downlighter.
I don't know the technical terms or the technique for finishing the rim, I assume it is shaped using a tool of some sort in the same way a vase would have been made but with a hole drilled on the top of the downlighter for the bulb holder to fit.
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2012, 11:48:23 AM »
Those edges look rounded and fire polished to me  ???


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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2012, 12:08:52 PM »
I have been using the term fire polished wrongly  :-[ (every day is a school day) the edges are indeed rounded, I was under the impression fire polished meant the glass being polished or buffed smooth. Also shape WK should read ZK earlier in thread.
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2012, 12:26:41 PM »
that's ok Gary  ;D  I was just beginning to doubt myself completely.  I did though think I  might be talking about the wrong rim - i.e. I was referring to the rim at the wide edge of the shade (which is firepolished) whereas you may have been referring to the cut edge of the drilled hole for the attachment to the electrics or hanging cord if you see what I mean.  I don't often see firepolished edges to those on the lampshades I've had (various art glass lampshades but not MOnart) - but I think I have occasionally had the odd one ground and then polished.
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2012, 02:19:34 PM »
My brother has a fire-polished rim Vasart down-light shade.  ;D
Same basic sort of shape as the one you posted, Gary (I don't think it bulges in quite the same way at the bottom, but that could just be the angle of the pic.) It's white with reddy-orange swirls. Far nicer lit than unlit.
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Re: monart light shade?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2012, 07:32:43 PM »
Phew, I'm glad that's sorted itself out  ;D

Fire polished = rounded edge.

So, usually shades are fire polished, rather than ground with, or without polishing.

For instance, the top of the base to a pre-war mushroom lamps is ground for the fitting, but the rim to the shade is fire polished (rounded). However, post war 'flange' lamps have both base and shade fire polished. This is the 'rule of thumb'. Just so that it's clear to non officionardos!

Cheers Nigel

 

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