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Offline pooleandpaperweights

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 04:46:29 PM »
Caithness brought the whitefriars name and made the first weights in 1981 (might be 82?).  They named their expensive weights Whitefriars from then, so I don't see how this could possibly be deemed a fake.  It is what it is.  A Caithness Whitefriars weight, which had monk canes.....

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 05:11:23 PM »
Hi guys
Thankyou so much for the info!!!  The glass community ate a fantastic bunch of collectors  only been collecting for 5 months and 95%of the people are great ive got the paperweight  bug badley
The reason ive asked if it was a fake was for if i decide to sell i like to give as much info as possible  and ive got very little knowledge of my own!!! I try and do my research andcthat lead me to you guys  who have been excellant and once i learn how to get pics up ive one or two more mysterious weights
ID JUST LIKE TO THANK ALL WHO HELPED ME TODAY
IM DO GRATEFUL  YOUR ALL STARS many many thanks
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Joe

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 05:22:24 PM »
 :-[
Sorry - I had believed wfs got Caithness to make their weights for them.

I was merely being a bit tongue-in-cheek and pedantic.  ;D
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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 06:04:24 PM »
Here are pix sent by Joe

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2012, 06:10:21 PM »
Could that be a Paul Ysart?  :o
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2012, 06:28:05 PM »
 ;D

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2012, 07:29:02 PM »
Not with a monk cane in Caithness neodymium. It's probably archive stock

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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2012, 07:35:16 PM »
Ah well, that's me and bunches of flowers then.  ;D  They all look the same.
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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 10:20:41 AM »
I was in the Caithness Factory shop just yesterday - I managed to sneak in for 2 minutes before they shut, but did have the opportunity to speak to a knowledgeable member of staff.
I even saw a few newly made Limited Edition "Whitefriars" Caithness weights. There are images on their site (link below).

They still have the original monk canes and are CURRENTLY making weights including a sliver of the cane.
I was given the catalogue containing the images of the 2012 weights, I have perused the website but cannot find any of the designs which may have been produced prior to 2012, but I an now thinking that your weight is one of the new ones. I did ask the lady about neodynum weights with a wfs cane, but she didn't seem to know what neodynum glass was... we really only had 2-3 minutes.
Linda Campbell is the amazing lampworker for several (if not all of them), she trained with the superlative Allan Scott - which would account for my muddling the quality of the lampwork with that of Paul Ysart.
I wouldn't confuse Allan Scott with Paul Ysart though. Allan wins, no contest.  (IMNSHO)
Anyway, here's a link to the Caithness website - I would recommend contacting them to ask about your weight.

Perhaps not a "museum piece" just yet.  ;D

http://www.caithnessglass.co.uk/


btw - is this your sale?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-caithness-whitefriars-neodynum-glass-paperweight-a-one-off-bright-new-day-/200829497776?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item2ec25ef1b0


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Re: possible caithness fake?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2012, 11:09:53 AM »
Hi guys
Just wanted to add that ive had an email from caithness
And they have told me the maker was rosette fleming made in
97 at a cost of 135 pounds
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Joe

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