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Offline agincourt17

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A pink trinket set with many similarities to the clear or rose-tinted crystal ‘Bambous Tors’ sets shown in the 1916 Baccarat catalogue. Apparently there are no markings or numbers anywhere on the pieces.

The most striking likenesses are in the shape of the stoppered perfume bottles and lidded pots, particularly in the distinctive swirled decoration on the pieces. The small oval tray is also very similar. See:
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Baccarat-1916-br-Garnitures-de.54+B6YmFja1BJRD01NCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjExMCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD01NCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

The oval tray is similar in shape to the 1916 T45 tray, but the pink tray has radial decoration instead of swirls. See: 
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Baccarat-1916-br-Garnitures-de.54+B6YmFja1BJRD01NCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjEwOCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD01NCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

The T39 candlesticks in the 1916 catalogue (link as above) have several similarities to the pink pair (similar swirled shape of cup and foot), but the stems are basically a baluster shape compared to the twin bulges on the stem of the pink pair.

The pink tray measures 11 x 8.5 inches, and the candlesticks are 8.5 inches tall.

Is this set perhaps a more modern Baccarat set?

Comments, suggestions, or perhaps photos of similar sets to share, please?


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Re: Pink swirl trinket set – similarities to Baccarat Bambous Tors sets?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 08:53:37 AM »
I don't think this is a Baccarat set. In my collection of more than 850 glass and crystal ring holders I have several  "look alikes"of the "bambou torsé". When you put them next to each other there are slight differences in models/dimensions and details but above all the glass quality of Baccarat is superior. That is such a striking difference! The Baccarat sets are in clear, yellow, blue, red  and the wellknown red-orange that fades.  At my opinion this is not a Baccarat color.  The similar ones I have are , green , purple, pink/orange, brown/orange "metallic", clear.   Baccarat ring holders are signed in relief "Baccarat Depose". Some items of the set too but not all. The German/Bohemian  are not signed.
 The tray doesn't belong at all to the set.

Please have a look at Pamela's Musterbuch at:  Krug Mundt 1906, Müller- Kraft Dresden 1914 (!!), Radeberg 1890 and Walther 1925.
 I hope this helps a bit?

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Re: Pink swirl trinket set – similarities to Baccarat Bambous Tors sets?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 11:03:16 AM »
Thank you for your erudite opinion, and for the informed musterbuch references, Eugénie.

(Pamela's Musterbuchs are a fantastic reference resource  - once you have some idea of where to start looking). 

 

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