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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 03:48:28 PM »
They might be, or they might be Mdina - they're both Boffo though.  ;D
They are executed in his distinctive style - but when it comes to the Earthtones pattern, it's impossible to say where they were made unless there's a label or a written script on the base.
The second one has been offered for sale for a long time. Nobody's biting at that price.   ::)
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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 03:50:48 PM »
They do look to be, they can be tricky to tell compared to Mdina but I think you are right. Quite a bit of the MDG production can be fairly wonky - can see that in the first link.

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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 04:48:29 PM »
Thanks very much  ;)

The first example has quite a bit of red in it (I think) and I thought that was an indication of MDG. The lip/top of the vase/bottle is a bit wonky/asymmetrical though, as you suggest John  !

Are there Mdina examples with the same/similar colours as in the second case ?   

Both are a definate Mdina shape though , I had a blue one with label once !

I'm just trying to get an eye for MDG (without buying !! at that price !....but if I had the spare dosh I would !!)

It's all very tempting ,

Thanks very much for your help , Sue & John , I really do appreciate it !
Mike   :)
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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 05:27:09 PM »
No, red is not an indication of MDG, it's found a lot in Mdina too.
The brown colour was made using red glass, it's the silver (from the silver nitrate used) reacting with red glass that makes brown - so the streaky effect arises from unchanged and changed reds.
The only way of telling MDG by colour is if it is cased in amber, uses green glass or is the blue that is specific to MDG.
I think I've got an MDG cloudy yellow stoppered bottle too.

I reckon wonky MDG arises because Boffo was working with an apprentice on a piece during training. If you've got a perfect piece, it's probably all him or because he's got an experienced assistant at Mdina. Although I do have a couple of "perfect" bits that are definitely MDG.
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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 05:37:08 PM »
My gut would say MDG too. Pity there are not bottom pics, as that might help.


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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 05:56:48 PM »
Thanks Sue,

Gosh , I've still got a long way to go with my ID of MDG ! It's all so fascinating , thanks for the info on the reds , very interesting indeed !!

In the second example I think there  is some use of gold leaf  (as can be seen from the photos and in the description) . Was gold decoration used at Mdina do you know ? I've seen photos of a green MDG bottle (here on GMB) with , what looked like, silver leaf (can't find the link at the moment).

Anyway , it's wonderful... if it's Mdina or MDG , does it matter !! ;)

Ta very muchly , Mike  :D



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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 06:00:46 PM »
No that's just the silver chloride and I'm pretty sure the green didn't use silver leaf either


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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 06:03:49 PM »
Thanks Christine,

You can tell I need some chemistry lessons  ::)

Thanks !!
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Re: Are these USA ebay items MDG ? The second example is superb !
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 08:48:05 PM »
This one is from MDG, the seller has another bottle with the same shape but no label and I think they have mixed up the two stoppers: ebay link

John

 

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