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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 06:03:24 PM »
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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 09:40:01 PM »
thanks  :)
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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 07:48:14 AM »

In 1963 I was on an outdoor school trip to the Lake District.
En route to our accommodation in Chapel Stile, we visited the studio of Dean Walmsley, maker of stained glass.
The link was my school - Queen Elizabeth's Grammar School Blackburn - and I believe that Mr Walmsley was a school governor.
He was certainly known tour head teacher (Brian Hartley Kemball-Cook, sadly no longer with us - a fine man and a good head teacher).
It was a great insight into glass making using traditional methods.
I will always remember it.

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 03:03:35 PM »
Thank you for adding information :)

interesting that his name included 'Hartley' as the vase was made at Hartley Wood.
I did a bit of googling in case there might be some link but so far the only link I can find is in an article where both he is mentioned and 'Hartley's Alpine Sports' in Bolton.
So it might be that the name is quite common to the North/North East ... or there may be a link between him and Hartley Wood and also Hartley's Alpine Sports of course.

Thank you again.

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2017, 02:50:24 AM »
I don't think that there is any inference to be drawn from the middle name. These are often family names.
He left QEGS to take up a similar role at Bedford Modern School, during my university years - I think.
Walmsley's connections with QEGS precede Kemball-Cook's by some years.

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 10:00:17 PM »
Hmm, I love a challenge. I think it is a strange coincidence that
Brian Hartley Kemball-Cooke (Head of QEGS Blackburn) knew
Dean Bernard Walmsley (a governor at QEGS Blackburn dating to prior to BH K-C becoming head) who used
Hartley Wood & Co to produce his glass.

It appears from this link that he made several stained glass windows for Blackburn Grammar School in 1926
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/lyon-and-turnbull/catalogue-id-srly10050/lot-cacfe919-8015-49ac-9c07-a448003b6bae
'Blackburn Grammar School, Lancs [seven windows, ca 1926]'


There could well be a link somewhere.  Brian Hartley Kemball-Cooke may well have been a son of a female member of the Hartley family hence being given the name as a middle name.  (My middle name is a surname as well :) and was my grandmother's family name)

Some more information will come to light I am sure.

Here is a link to the Hartley Wood factory and some information from someone who says his father was  stained glass artist and bought his glass from Hartley Wood (presumably not Dean Walmsley as it looks from the account that he picked up glass in 1989 and Dean Walmsley had died in 1985 aged 92), but interesting photographs.

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/hartley-wood-glass-sunderland-1989.t77102

More information on the History of Hartley Wood here
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7b8fca6b-a110-43c9-9447-543b4eaad1f8#0
and here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,11525.msg84008.html#msg84008


(Not sure if there will end up being a link but just in case, Brian Hartley Kemball-Cook may have had three brothers, if this is the same Brian mentioned, who may have been Denis, Richard and Barry according to this obituary for Denis:
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/02/obituaries/denis-kemball-cook-former-shell-oil-chief.html )


'walmsley bernard dean (1893-1985)
born in blackburn.......son of Luke walmsley himself a fine art dealer.1st opened a stained glass studio in lytham st annes in i think 1922 until 1929 until he moved with his wife to Chapel Stile in Langdale where they opened a new studio designing stained glass windows and vases and plaques all which (vases and plaques) were made at and by Hartley Wood and co Sunderland.............ref the arts and crafts movement in the northwest of england........'

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2017, 04:19:29 AM »
Quote
(Not sure if there will end up being a link but just in case, Brian Hartley Kemball-Cook may have had three brothers, if this is the same Brian mentioned, who may have been Denis, Richard and Barry according to this obituary for Denis:
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/02/obituaries/denis-kemball-cook-former-shell-oil-chief.html )

Yes they are all four brothers, their mother's maiden name was Pavitt.  I have been back a couple of generations and found that Brian Hartley K-C's uncle was named Hartley Trevor Kemball-Cook, but I cannot find a Hartley surname connection as the female surnames found were Pavitt,  Archer and Davies. No Hartleys. (Yet!) 

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2017, 08:27:18 AM »
Anne thank you :)

It will probably turn out that there is no link:

I see from Bigbri's post that Dean Walmsley was born in Blackburn, so (extrapolating wildly) may well have gone to QEGS as a boy and hence became a governor of the school perhaps.
And so BH K-C as Headteacher may just have taken the kids to his studio because he was a governor of the school and had an interesting occupation.

but I think it's worth speculating just a little  ;D   Just in case.

Shame the name Wood didn't come up as a maiden name -
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Gilbert_Henry_Wood

as one of Gilbert Henry Wood's sons appears to have been name Gordon Hartley Wood, so Hartley appears to have been brought into the Wood family tree somehow (either as just a familiar name , or perhaps through marriage to a Hartley daughter maybe?)
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Gordon_Hartley_Wood

RE  Hartley Trevor Kemball-Cook

He appears to have been an author although whether his surname is hyphenated or not is in dispute perhaps?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-Hartley-Trevor-Kemball-Cook/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3AHartley%20Trevor%20Kemball%20Cook



oh, some more information on the Hartley glassmaking family here (scroll down to below the brewery information):

http://www.hartleyfamily.org.uk/fame4.htm

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2017, 02:45:26 AM »
It wasn't hyphenated originally, the surname was Cook, with Kemball as a middle name, then as the family stature grew it acquired a hyphen! The father of Brian Hartley Kemball-Cook and the other three was a bigwig civil servant who was knighted (presumably as such senior civil servants seem to be, for just doing their job). I have some background info on him and his two wives. I haven't followed up why Kemball was used as a middle name though (yet!)  ;)

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Re: Anyone heard of a UK Glass maker 1930's called Walmsley?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2017, 06:19:41 AM »
Oh gosh Anne, if they turn out not to be related to Hartley Wood at all   ;D 

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