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Author Topic: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?  (Read 3796 times)

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Offline chriss

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Hi I have found a very pretty and unusual coloured (to me anyway) glass bowl. I was wondering if anyone knows what it is as i have tried to do research and the closest i can come up with colour and decor wise are

http://www.botterweg.com/Auction/Bid/tabid/59/auctionid/7/lotid/1984/language/en-US/Default.aspx

http://www.trocadero.com/stores/toobiltd/items/172429/item172429.html

The way the detail is applied just reminds me of tango glass.

Mine has manganese or similar content  as it reacts to UV light over the lilac main body and the off white/cream detail gives off a bright glow so I'm presuming this is possibly uranium content custard glass or similar, though I'm wearing L plates with the different types of uranium and other types of glass that react to UV?
The colour is a rich soft lilac, not quite as dark as some of the photos show, but it was the best match :)
Thanks :))



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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 04:58:03 PM »
It looks very closely related to some pieces Lustrousstone has.  :)
They're not Loetz. I don't think we know what they are yet. (I'm hoping I'll be corrected!)
I thought though, that "tango" was a word which specifically referred to orange stuff.
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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 05:03:21 PM »
Hi thanks for the quick reply :))
Tango can come in lots of colours

https://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/loetz-4--tango-glass-1

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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 05:23:18 PM »
Your trim is Uranium glass.  :)
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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 06:43:49 PM »
Thankyou  ;D Much appreciated :))

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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 07:04:44 PM »
These are not Loetz pieces. It is suspected that they may be Kralik, but I do not believe they have ever been nailed down for sure. They seem to appear with varying degrees of execution quality.

As far as your links go, the first link appears to be an example of Ausfuhrung 166. Neither the shape or the decor are related to Powolny. The great Powolny - Tango myth will likely never die.......

Your second link may be a Loetz piece, but could also be by a couple of other companies. In several instances that particular seller, who I am familiar with, applies numerous questionable attributions. As an example their "Extremely Rare Loetz Cypriote Vase" for $1100 is a nice example of Kralik Overshot.

Sue,
The term Tango has been applied to a wide variety of 2 color glass, but a relatively recent display in the Czech Republic of the glass and it's history reveals that the term initially referred to the multicolor combinations of the costumes worn by South American Tango dancers and encompassed much more than 2 color examples....... 

Craig
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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 07:30:08 PM »
I was most likely getting mixed up with ceramic glazes from the '30s, and earlier in which orange is often referred to as being tango... but I suspect it might simply have been a slang word.

I'll try to get it right from now on - and put others right too. Myths do need to be dispelled!

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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 12:18:49 AM »
Hi I've just come across another link similar to the one in the thread previously given by flying free which shows a few other similar pieces to mine I believe :)

 http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/44813-czech-glass-new-tango-and-deco-glass

I've just realised that the 1st image side shot of my glass is pretty naff, so I've uploaded 2 clearer photos of it for future reference :))

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Re: Is this Lilac and cream glass Loetz / Micheal Powolny Tango glass please?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 12:32:08 AM »
Another update from this author in another similar more recent link is - 

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/63299-kralik-tango-a-permanent-color-riot

To me, these seem like virtually identical prunts and applied detail to the rim and rim shape though i don't know if they are uranium content like mine, I would assume they may well be?

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