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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2006, 10:36:39 PM »
Oh I found a picture in my files of my Murano baluster stem & footed ruby rose, again with the same translucent green over opaque white leaf treatment as yours has, Ray. The overall presentation is essentaily identical:


http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=20

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2006, 10:45:44 PM »
Simone asked;
 
You packed them away Mark?  Why?
I have to say that they look similar to Ray's rose, although I never knew Murano made the pedestal ones.
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Well because I simply have too many weights to safely put out on display all at once so I rotate them about  :D
Though I sell some on ebay and to collectors I know here in California, my addiction continues as I still buy & trade as well.

Yes, Murano made many footed and pedestal stem & foot rose weights as well as weights with other types of designs that are footed or pedestal stem & footed.
In my opinion, they did a good job.

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2006, 11:00:13 PM »
Oh for joy!

I found in my files the pictures of my Shaded Pink Murano baluster stem & footed crimp rose that is the same coloration & crimp as Rays'.
Also, it has the same hollowed out, polished pontil like Ray describes his,
pic below:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=-66&pos=0

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2006, 11:04:17 PM »
thanks Mark, any idea who made them in murano and what date would you put on them?
cheers Ray

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2006, 11:30:09 PM »
Ray,

I have no idea who in Murano made them but as Gay Taylor of Wheaton Village in Millville, NJ dates Arthur Gorham having them made there as early as the 1960s, then that's a good  date to put on them.

Other Qs are; How long did they continue to make them and how many did they make?

We may never know but they do come up on ebay with some irregular regularity, if you know what I mean so they are common enough.

The original Millville article (circa 1905-1912), on the other hand, is extremely rare with only a handful known to be extant.

Millville crimp roses (circa 1905-1912), that are simply footed and do not have the stem are very very hard to find as well.
Recent sales of those have eclipsed as much as $7,500.00 USD (L. H. Selman) and I've never seen one come up on ebay.

Emil Larson, who made footed crimp roses in Vineland, NJ in the 1930s have come up on ebay only twice thus far.

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Re: Millville Rose pedestal paperweight
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 03:44:07 AM »
I bought a pedestal crimped rose thinking it might be murano but it has a silver "H" under the top ball and before the start of the pedestal.  Does anyone know who's signature this is. Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Re: Millville Rose pedestal paperweight
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2010, 03:52:49 AM »
2 makers that come to mind are Robert Hamon & Ronald Hansen.
Pictures including top, side, and bottom views would be helpful.

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Re: Millville Rose pedestal paperweight
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2010, 02:03:29 AM »
Here's a few shots of the weight... The silver aventurine capital 'H' is visible in between my thumbs and when looking straight down on the weight... The bottom is slightly concave with the center pontil raised and polished (not ground flat.) The weight itself has a rose and three small bud leaves that look like white with green overlay (that's why I was thinking Murano).

http://www.box.net/shared/s698d81ujx
http://www.box.net/shared/0o6zs0i50p
http://www.box.net/shared/pjb41fuci4

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Re: Millville Rose pedestal paperweight
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2010, 04:07:33 AM »
That's Robert Hamon's frit (powdered glass) signature cane.
I have several in my collection.
Thank you for sharing.

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