Looking for Glass on ebay? Angela's Designer Searches can help! Click here!

Author Topic: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?  (Read 797 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wayne

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 723
  • Gender: Male
    • 20th Century Glass
Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« on: December 01, 2012, 10:35:41 AM »
Just curious really as I've never seen a signed piece of AVeM before, does anyone know if the signature is real or fake?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DINO-MARTENS-AURELIANO-TOSO-venini-Mottled-glass-vase-/170948075670

Obviously the title and description is wrong as the signature reads "Arte Vetraria Muranese" (AVeM) not Aureliano Toso.


Offline rocco

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1673
  • Gender: Male
    • Vienna, Austria
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 02:27:37 PM »
I don't know, but it doesn't look like a Dino Martens design (I'm not even sure it is Murano at all); a roughly ground, unpolished pontil mark would be rather untypical for high end Murano glass, IMHO...

Michael


Offline Lustrousstone

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 10818
  • Gender: Female
    • Warrington, UK
    • My Gallery
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 07:10:21 PM »
I have one of those, though the colours are a bit nicer. It's not signed neither is the base rough ground; it's semi-matte ground using quite a small wheel, as you can see the wheel marks (much like on some Malta Decorative Glass). I was told "mother in law bought it on holiday somewhere, Malta perhaps".
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=33
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=34


Offline rosieposie

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 2924
  • Gender: Female
    • Glass birds and animals
    • Hampshire. South of England.
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 12:48:35 AM »
I notice it had been previously sold in October... I wonder if the buyer returned it, or where there possibly 2 identical ones?
Rosie.

When all's said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.  Roger McGough.


Offline Lustrousstone

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 10818
  • Gender: Female
    • Warrington, UK
    • My Gallery
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 11:27:53 AM »
I assume "identical" is tongue in cheek, as getting the splotches the same would be miraculous  :-X


Offline Wayne

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 723
  • Gender: Male
    • 20th Century Glass
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 11:35:15 AM »
Yeah I assume they either returned it or never sent payment.  Thanks for the replies, looks like it's probably not Murano then.  Maltese does sound more likely.


Offline Lustrousstone

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 10818
  • Gender: Female
    • Warrington, UK
    • My Gallery
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 11:45:37 AM »
I'm not saying it's Maltese, more that it was a holiday souvenir


Offline Wayne

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 723
  • Gender: Male
    • 20th Century Glass
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 11:55:54 AM »
Sorry, I know we're not sure of anything  ;) I just meant it seems more likely than Murano.  I was also thinking maybe Polish with those bright colours.  Anyway, main reason to ask was just in case anyone knew for sure if the signature was fake, I could let the seller know, although it's ended now...and if it WAS genuine, which seemed unlikely, it would be interesting to know.  :)


Offline chopin-liszt

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7998
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 12:22:11 PM »
I would very much doubt Maltese. 
Christine - I had always thought that bit of yours had come from St Helen's World of Glass!  When we visited, there was an atrist's piece for sale of a similar design - in a deep lilac ground with mostly greens and blues - I was very tempted by it.
Cheers, Sue (M)

“All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.” Friedrich Nietzsche


Offline rosieposie

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 2924
  • Gender: Female
    • Glass birds and animals
    • Hampshire. South of England.
Re: Signed AVeM piece - is it "real"? ... Or maybe Maltese?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 01:06:01 PM »
I assume "identical" is tongue in cheek, as getting the splotches the same would be miraculous  :-X

 ;)
Rosie.

When all's said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.  Roger McGough.

 

This Website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand