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Author Topic: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz  (Read 1306 times)

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Offline TripleLutz

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ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« on: February 04, 2013, 05:16:07 AM »
Newby to the board here. I've got a half dozen or so unidentified vitreous objects I'll be asking for help with over the next few days. I'm a "Bohemian glass" collector who has scooped up these questionables as I was shopping for Loetz, et al.
This is a large, rather heavy vase, 9 3/4 inches wide by 10 1/2 high, blown of clear glass with light iridescence. The distinguishing feature is the series of deep pulled ribs that spiral from base to just below the ruffled mouth. The pontil is ground smooth and the base shows shelf wear commensurate with age.
As I said, it was sold as Loetz and could well be... but I haven't found any good precedents among published Loetz pieces. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help!

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 04:07:55 PM »
Welcome to the GMB,beautiful piece,don't recognise the shape,I 'll have a look around,some body will probably beat me to it ::) ;D ;D

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 04:55:46 PM »
Thanks, Keith!  ;D

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 05:42:21 PM »
Keith, does it look a bit Walsh Walsh to you?


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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 06:39:59 PM »
Strange you should say that,although I can't remember seeing anything similar in Reynolds book I did post a piece a while ago that Bernard thought may have been Walsh and it was this piece that came to mind when I saw this new post, ;D

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 08:18:04 PM »
Have found these doing searches for vases with "ribs". Came across a couple like the Loetz ribbed floriform. The other was said to be possibly "Wilhelm Habel, co-founder of Palme-Konig".
There's also a ribbed Loetz piece illustrated on page 257 of Neuwirth's Loetz Austria 1900.
Keep those opinions coming! Thanks.  :D

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http://www.icollector.com/RIBBED-ART-NOUVEAU-ART-GLASS-VASE_i8498664

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 08:48:19 PM »
Thanks Keith, that was what I was thinking of... It would be interesting to see what bernard or Craig think of either Bohemian or English ideas...



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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 08:56:42 PM »
Thanks for weighing in, Robert.
If you are referring to Craig Orkney, I ran it past him awhile back. He knows I've posted here, so maybe he'll give us an updated opinion. Hope so!
Thanks again,
Doug

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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 12:06:34 AM »
I had seen this before, as Doug and I are in contact directly as a result of my website. I actually suggested he sign up here. I am at a loss on this piece of glass.

It looks Bohemian in some ways, but the suggestion that it is possibly English is certainly one that, at least to me, carries some weight. On English origins I would defer to those much more wise in the field than I am... Most of my experience amounts to a couple of pieces I bought because I liked them and the price was right, and by accident they turned out to be good English glass.......   ;D

In those cases, I was lucky and not educated....

This is an interesting piece of glass and I hope it gets an accurate ID here, as I have been quite curious about it since I first saw it.... 

As a closing comment I would have to say that after seeing some of the Walsh Walsh examples and studying this piece some more, I would have to say that the glass itself bears a stronger resemblance to English examples than Bohemian examples I could recollect...

Wish I could be of more help, but I do think it is an interesting example....
Craig

Edit In:  I have to say that I do not think this example is a piece of Loetz....  I could be wrong, as that is always a possibility, but that is my opinion at this point....   ;D
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Re: ID clear glass vase, deep pulled ribs, sold as Loetz
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 01:04:20 AM »
Thanks, Craig. It's great having the benefit of the wisdom of the board and your depth of experience with Bohemian glass. I'll consider it provisionally British, until proven otherwise...  ;D
Although it was "sold as Loetz", I bought it because I liked it and knowing full well I'd never seen any Loetz like it!
The more I look at it--right here on my desk for the last couple days--the more I think the ribs are attached rather than pulled. Even so, I can't even imagine how it was accomplished. If attached, there was a lot of heat applied afterwards, as everything is seamlessly fused.
Oh well... I might as well be musing on the construction of the Great Pyramid. It's a mystery! :o
Thanks again.

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