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ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« on: February 18, 2013, 04:01:57 AM »
The paperweight shown below has characteristics that resemble Bacchus and also Gillinder.  Any help in sorting this out will be appreciated.  The outer row is tightly drawn into a stave basket (see last picture).  2 1/2" diameter by 1 3/4" high. 

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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 07:07:40 AM »
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Hi Allan.

I have had a couple of weights like this, and a bottle with exactly matching set-ups in the base and stopper (obviously cut from the same massive complex cane). A similar bottle went through Selman a few years ago. The items are well made, the density is consistent with Bacchus, but I could not find any cane in them that matched a cane in a classic Bacchus weight. So I remain puzzled. That said, I am sure there were a number of English factories that made high quality weights for a short time in the 1850s - not just Bacchus.  It is worth bearing in mind that we do not know where Gillinder worked in his few years in Birmingham (it was not at Bacchus though), so it is possible he made these weights at, for example, William Gammon or another high quality maker - but that is speculation.

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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 03:13:40 PM »
Hi Alan,

Thanks for the response.  Are you ruling out the possibility that this was made at Gillinder in Philadelphia?

Allan
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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 07:37:31 PM »
Hi Allan,

What a lovely weight!

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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 09:30:25 PM »
Thank you Sophie.  I agree.   :)
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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 05:16:55 PM »
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Hi Allan.

I don't know enough about the range of paperweights that Gillinder made in Philadelphia to offer a view, I'm afraid.

Attached is an image of the Old English 'Bacchus like' weight I mentioned.

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Re: ID Help: Bacchus or Gillinder or other?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 09:48:38 PM »
Thanks Alan, I can see the resemblance.
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