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Author Topic: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?  (Read 3323 times)

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Offline Simone

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ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« on: April 20, 2006, 10:52:13 PM »
There's 2 of these I found and unpainted them today. They're very nice and look like good quality. Does anyone have an idea of who made them and when?

It's very hard to photograph, and has lots of scallops and "steps" as well as a starcut base. :roll:

I've never seen a plate with a thick rim that is rolled upwards and downwards.

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2006, 07:05:04 PM »
Maybe, possibly ........maybe Bernsdorf (or Walther) "Lady".

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2006, 08:31:36 PM »
Simone and Glen, to my opinion the edge is too smooth for being Bernsdorf Lady and Walther- the latter were really square
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2006, 08:33:05 PM »
how about what you call Jacobean please?
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2006, 08:34:28 PM »
and in the affirmative: could it be.... Inwald?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2006, 08:34:41 PM »
Thanks Glen and thanks Pamela, the edges are thick, not square, but rounded, they're rounded on the bottom turned in bit, but not rounded on the top, although they're not squared either.

I hope I haven't confused matters even more. :)
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2006, 08:39:16 PM »
No, not Jacobean (Inwald). There is no ridging between the Jacobean squares at all. They merge into each other.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Jacob2.html

Trouble is there are a lot of these square block type patterns......

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2006, 08:44:43 PM »
Glen, do you join me that Simone's is neither Bernsdorf Lady nor Inwald Mylord?
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 08:49:02 PM »
Pamela - the plate is certainly not Inwald's Jacobean (Milord).

I can see what you mean about Lady. The trouble is it is so similar to many of these square block patterns. I feel that handling it would help. Photos are really difficult.

It's tricky.

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2006, 03:02:07 PM »
Hi Simone,
think I found something very similar  :D

IMHO could be from former Yugoslawia
STS Zagreb 1936 A, page 'supplement 2'
pattern # 2121

also that equally looking star base counts 20 rays

two sizes 15 cms and 25 cms
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