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Author Topic: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?  (Read 5726 times)

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2006, 07:28:31 PM »
the silhouette of LADY is also fine in this vase:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/01455.html

and again in Centre Pieces of course:

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/01456.html

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2006, 11:04:23 PM »
That surprises me Pamela.
I thought that I had confirmed this with you last year (but the PC ate my emails, so it could be a senior moment on my part!) ;-)

I have two 'celery vases', three sizes of bowl, and the bowl on foot. (amber, amethyst and anna-groen). To me they are very clearly from the same manufacturer and pattern.

And to be honest when I look at the picture of your tall 'posy' vase against mine I really can't see any clear difference, so could you please be really clear about the difference that you see between my pic and your pic?

Perhaps it would be easier to send you a bigger selection of angles via personal email?

The fact that they are easy to find in Holland implies certain factories which are more likely to be the source (e.g. Walther, Markhbein).

(Dear Moderator, I guess this thread is splitting, but I'd still like to finish this point. Your help/advice?)
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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2006, 02:53:00 AM »
Jay, stick with it for now and we can split out the posts if we need to later into separate threads. It seems to me that all are connected at the moment so no point in dividing it. :)
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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2006, 06:49:11 PM »
Jay, may be you're right that we talked about it earlier - I do not remember I'm afraid. I tried to look for other pictures of it on your homepage, but unfortunately they all seem to have vanished also?
Your new, very·next·to·the·bowl-photos show that yours hasn't got the horizontal lentil shaped gaps/'facets'

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2006, 10:20:39 PM »
First: the glass: I feel comfortable between all of you regarding Lady - Jacobean - or what? I DO NOT KNOW and tend to give up  ;D ::) ???

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2006, 10:50:15 AM »
Hi

May not help on the Id of your plate but still looks very similar to a plate I have ,although you all seem sure the plate is 1930's it very similar to this plate which has a date lozenge for 1856 made by Edward Bolton so maybe some designs have change very little over the years
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/paty1.jpg - Mod: Image gone
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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2006, 11:35:57 AM »
Roy - thanks for posting that plate. I can see that the rim might resemble the one on Simone's plate - is that the similarity you were talking about?

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2006, 08:52:47 PM »
Hi

yes that is the similarity I was talking about, the picture of the my plate also has an upward and turned down rim

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2006, 05:56:27 PM »
Cathy - your ballerina dish was made by Stolle Niemen - POLAND. (Huty Szklane J. Stolle "Niemen" SP) circa 1926-1935

Lots more to add about this and other Polish patterns - it's going to take time to sort it all out.

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Re: ID on a plate with a turned under AND turned up edge?
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2007, 11:12:19 PM »
I think that Simone's plate is similar in features to the 2nd vase in this post

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9089.0.html

I thought it was similar to my mystery vase when Simone posted it but since I didn't know my vase, I didn't comment.  But since we are revisiting the subject  ;D

The features that struck me as similar are that thick rolled  ??? edge and the way the blocks are flared up at the edges.

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