hello Barry - regret I can't seem to open your second link, but can give you a little information on the first glass.
a not uncommon form of funnel-shaped short ale, with wrythen decoration to the lower half of the bowl, and the knop. You don't give dimensions, but I'm assuming the foot will have a slightly larger diameter than the rim which is usual for these things, and I'd guess height will be something from just under 5" to possibly a little over 6". Should have a good lead composition ring when flicked.
Date wise these things occur throughout most of the C18 - the earlier examples having folded feet, although this one appears to be without that feature, so I'm guessing yours will possibly date more to the second half of that period. Your glass should sit on the very outside edge of the foot.
It's a good glass to have, and these short ales are popular pieces. In some examples, the wrythen decoration often extends the whole height of the bowl - others have flammiform fringes to the top part of the twist - some have two knops, and then the really rare pieces have the winged knops.