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Hollow fish with gold leaf
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:29:19 PM »
This fish is quite light in weight and about 20cm long. Anita has one with a similar form in the Murano Zoo but there are enough differences that maybe this one is from another factory, the clear example here (top right): https://sites.google.com/site/muranozoo/fish-invertebrates-4

When I bought this one I passed up two more, same form, slightly smaller and blue. Some shark had been nibbling the tails.

My first thought was Salviati but that is probably just the gold leaf talking. Any ideas?

John



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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 07:18:00 PM »
They look  similar to the Salviati menu or place card  holders but bigger , possibly part of a table service  .

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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 03:14:21 AM »
They look like the Fratelli Toso fish to me, but other people could have made them, too. I don't know if Salviati did fish with the large lips like this. However, there is a lot I don't know about this type glass. The eyes and mouth of yours are different from the FT fishes I've seen, but it may be another company -- I don't know.
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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 09:45:37 AM »
I have a fish vase similar style to your fish, and they seem very hard to attribute >> http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,50228.0.html

The eyes in yours are quite unusual, though, so maybe that can be linked to a maker one day...

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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 05:39:01 PM »
Thank you JP, Anita and Michael for taking a look. If part of a table service I wonder what their function could be?

John


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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 06:40:22 PM »
Maybe thats why the mouth is so big to hold something .... like ice and tongs . :-\

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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 06:56:17 PM »
I've seen them called salts, and have even seen two of them with little spoons. Maybe it is what they are.
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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 06:59:42 PM »
Maybe not ice, it would be a bit small for today's 'standard' sort of sized cubes but salt would fit, the interior slopes away from the mouth so it would not flow out. Were the spoons you saw made of glass Anita?

Just a random thought but could you serve caviar in one of these fishes?

Thank you both, this little fishy is turning out to be a really fun item.


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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 08:52:39 PM »
I don't really understand why why come people call these fish salts. I believe the old salt dishes were ones that actually did hold salt. People could stab some piece of food, then dip it in the salt. Sounds like a great way to get high blood pressure to me.  I can't picture trying to dip every piece of food into the fish's mouth. Meal would be a slow thing.

Caviar holder! Now that seems a perfect use for them. And the little spoons fit into that idea.
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Re: Hollow fish with gold leaf
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 08:14:21 AM »
I thought!!! too big for salt , Caviar did cross my mind or crushed ice the upturn would hold it in . I still go with part of a table service with the menu holders , I believe several firms made them . :-\

 

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