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Author Topic: Unusual Amber Bohemia Glass Vase Applied Overshot Decor - Help ID please...  (Read 1413 times)

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Very interesting :)
Charlene would you say the pontil mark on yours is quite large?
I think there are differences between yours and Craig's that make me wonder if they came from two different makers maybe?

It might be good to separate examples of those with all one length icicles, and those with alternate short and long icicles and see if there are any pointers to a manufacturer amongst the examples groups.

This shape looks like it might be the same maker as Craig's vase maybe
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6417916
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This listing says the jug is id'd as Thomas Hawkes?  I have no idea if Hawkes made such things?  To me the jug looks Bohemian.

http://bid.igavelauctions.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1603415#Image6
description says:

'an amber pitcher with applied icicles and enameled with flowers identified on the paper labels as 'fig 233, page 129' made by Thomas G. Hawkes, one founder of Steuben glass works and bearing the Hawkes signature, Bourne catalog Oct. 8, 1985'

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and ref the above jug or pitcher
this seems to explain what the Bourne catalogue was - apparently an important auction of a massive collection of early American Glass -
http://articles.philly.com/1987-02-01/living/26178009_1_glass-house-catalogues-sale

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This one has a similar base to yours Charlene and the pulled down rim looks similar as well although the icicles are all the  same length
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorian-ICICLE-GLASS-BOSTON-SANDWICH-AMBER-GOLD-CLEAR-VASE-ENAMEL-PINK-BERRIES-/140910349768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cee94dc8&ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:US:101

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That attribution as "The" Thomas Hawkes pertaining to that vase is absolute garbage to put it politely. At age 17 (1863) he was in the cutting shop of Hoare & Dailey in Brooklyn, then he moved to Corning where he founded several operations including Steuben & no operation & I mean no operation whether Hawkes or not in the Corning area made anything like that. Evidently the dolts who ran that auction never read his life story in The Complete Cut & Engraved Glass of Corning by Farrar & Spillman which is the bible for Corning glass nor did they have any knowledge of any of the Corning operations & what they manufactured.

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I think the examples are from different houses also.

I also agree that the Hawkes description on that example was completely in error....

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Thanks :) I have to say the flattened oval shape of that jug (seen from the top view) reminds me of the flattened oval shape of my large jug from Harrach.
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