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Author Topic: Four ids Needed mid century to Victorian  (Read 1836 times)

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Offline ginfor

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Four ids Needed mid century to Victorian
« on: April 27, 2006, 03:03:02 AM »
I've some decisions to make at an upcoming auction, or at least I'd like to know enough just in case.
This first bowl could be English or Bohemian, but I'm hoping something will help nail the id.  It's rubena with a deep-crackle finish, actual little canyons, not internal crackle.  I know Kralik did a surface like this, but the rest of the style looks more English.  Maybe Webb or Stevens & Williams, polished pontil and generally good quality:
http://home.earthlink.net/~denseforrest/rubena.jpg

This covered dish is a diamond or sawtooth pattern, but I can't find anything like this mildly erotic handles:
http://home.earthlink.net/~denseforrest/hair.jpg

This bowl makes me think Verlys, Lalique, or a Czech company whose name won't come to mind. There appears to be age wear, and the tone when lightly tapped is a true joy:
http://home.earthlink.net/~denseforrest/bird.jpg

This mid century piece may be Chinese, but I'm intrigued.  It's a 7 1/2" Murano style Christmas tree. The base is applied:
http://home.earthlink.net/~denseforrest/weight.jpg

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Forrest

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 06:25:26 AM »
Hi Forrest

Third bird is more likely to be Barolac - that was the one that did not come to mind ;-)

Christmas tree is definitely Barbini - I handled two of these on an antiques market the other day, one signed and one unsigned so both varieties occur.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 07:32:36 AM »
The bowl might be Arabesque by S&W,although this technique tends to have a whitish efffect to the crackle-can't tell from the pic.
Definitely Victorian era, though.The shape & crimp style looks English,too.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2006, 08:00:59 AM »
Could the first be Webb's Burmese?   :?  I'd say English, probably Stourbridge, at the very least.  Fenton also did a 'Burmese' but they are usually marked.

I love the bowl with the odd handles!  Are they lions heads? :shock:
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2006, 08:08:30 AM »
The third one isn't in the Barolac pattern catalogue that I have. It's a magnificent looking item though.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2006, 08:21:04 AM »
Doesn't look like Burmese, although the crimp style is found on Burmese items.Could even be a Webb crimp....
Burmese wasn't crackled in it's original Victorian incarnation (however, modern pieces made by Gibson glass from Fenton cullet sometimes are..)
The colouring looks more like a shaded ruby....if the base is amber, then it's Amberina, & if greenish (& U.V responsive) it's Rubina Verde.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2006, 08:30:28 AM »
Hmmmmm  :?  Looking at the first one again, I think the top edge is too deep red for Burmese.  I am now beginning to wonder if it's not even English!   :oops:  :roll:

Can we have a close-up of that 'crackle' finish?   :shock:
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2006, 03:59:35 PM »
Thanks for the input so far.  Now it's a matter of seeing what prices these go for.  Three of them sell tonight, one on Sat.

The diamond/sawtooth covered dish has a top handle formed by two women leaning backwards with their hair coming together to make the handle complete.  End handles are individual figures.  The moulding isn't as good as I'd like, but it's intriguing.

I'll try to get a better picture of the rubena bowl tonight. It's the one that doesn't sell until Sat.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 01:27:38 AM »
Hello:

No. 2 is a covered bowl in the Amazon pattern issued by Bryce Bros. of Pittsburgh, PA. in 1890.  The figural handles are lions, not women.

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