as a real novice to the PY world almost everything is a mystery. I'm hoping to learn a whole lot at the PY weekend in June. I guess a degree of rarity would push up the price of a two PY cane weight but certainly not 2 x normal. I won't ask what normal is as it's not a fair question. I'll just keep watching what is being paid on e-bay and auctions. There again what is normal these days? (rhetorical !!) Seems like fake PY weights command a hell of a lot !