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Author Topic: Monart epergne ?  (Read 2523 times)

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Offline Gary

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Monart epergne ?
« on: June 12, 2013, 09:14:04 AM »
Seen these pieces of glass on eBay, the colour scheme on the pieces is the same as Monart colour code 364 or 364B. What are the thoughts of other members on these pieces.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-STUNNING-VINTAGE-MONART-EPERNE-PIECES-/290929907752?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item43bcc61828
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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 12:45:52 PM »
I don't know about colourway codes, I don't know about shape codes, but these just scream MONART at me.

Although I can't be sure they weren't once goblets and have been broken then cut down and "restored".
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 12:49:48 PM »
That little footy thing is very odd, especially for epergne trumpets. I think I agree with Sue

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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 02:07:24 PM »
I am 99% sure they are Monart, it is what they are, is puzzling me. There is nothing in Monart catalogue like that shape, goblets or vases.
Below are images of colour codes 364 and 364B.
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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 02:27:08 PM »
There were non-catalogue shapes made occassionally, I believe.  :)
I don't know if the candlesticks my brother has are in the catalogue.
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 05:01:46 PM »
There were non-catalogue shapes made occassionally, I believe.  :)
I don't know if the candlesticks my brother has are in the catalogue.
You are right Sue Monart did produce some non catalogue shapes, I have images of 16 non catalogued Monart pieces.
Gary

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Re: Monart epergne ?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 05:18:44 PM »
So goblets would not be at all out of the question.
I do think this is a particularly glorious colourway - and I can imagine somebody asking for goblets to be made (but not epergnes).
 I really do think these are Monart, probably non-catalogue, possibly commission.
But the real problem is what they are; what they are supposed to be; and if they have been "restored" in any way.
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Ioannidis, (2005), Plos Medicine.

 

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