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Author Topic: A Pair of Crystal Stirrup Cups, Trinquettes or Pon ponnes or Footless Wines !!  (Read 2118 times)

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Offline petet63

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Cannot figure these two out. I thought they were maybe Stirrup Cups, I have seen Stirrup Cups in Crystal but not quite this shape. The two French Terms were only used in relation to 'Footless' Wine Glasses. They are a heavy pair and with feet would be a great pair of wines. They are 20cm in Height and 8cm diameter at the lip. I have seen a similar Pattern in Crystal somewhere (Tudor I think) but have always had feet. I have searched as much as I can with no real steps forward. Any ideas at all ??
Pete. :-)

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Offline neil53

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Hi,

They do look like Regency/George IV stirrup cups although the cup shaped bowls are unusual.  Are they hand cut or moulded?  Is the metal somewhat greyish in colour?  I attach a picture of a funnel shaped example which passed through my hands recently.  Perhaps Peter (oldglassman) or Paul S, will assist.

Neil

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 some one called  ;D

  I would be getting out my loup and looking very carefully at the handle ?? end for any signs of grinding or polishing ,my first impression is that they could be wine glasses that have suffered an amputation, and they do look a little out of proportion for stirrup cups to my eye, I would also expect the handle end to be finished in the same way as the round diamond knop above.

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I have checked and they haven't been cut down.  See pic. I don't think they are hand cut, I tried to take pic of what looks like it could be a mould mark (to me) Not old either. Really good ring to them though. Could be bells but seem to me to be the wrong shape as well. Rim is 3mm thick. Anyone else heard of trinquettes or pon ponnes ? Footless wines seems a bit risky. I have seen the modern Footless champagne glasses that were popular recently, (not with me  :))
Pete. :-)

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so what about table bells without clappers?

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That was my first thought but no sign of a clapper being attached but I am thinking there is the sound of a bell in the background  :D
Pete. :-)

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Clappers on a chain are fixed in putty so you would not see any trace when it's gone...

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Solved ...table bell !  Saw one in a shop with the clapper attached, maybe I should try for a set of four, remove clappers and list as a set of footless wines. Now going  in my car boot pile. Thanks all. 
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