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Author Topic: Artisti Barovier? Pauly label dolphin stem pokal, gilded/enamelled decoration  (Read 769 times)

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I'm trying to id the maker of this pokal as it would help me id another piece.
I thought it might be Artisti Barovier  pre 1914 taking into account the detail on the dolphin and the enamelling and gilding.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5746583
Any thoughts/help would be very much appreciated  :) thanks.
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but I'm very unsure on the label?  it looks new to me.  So could this be a more recent piece?
Thank you for looking :)
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I can't be much help here. I have seen Pauly labels like this one on pieces that looked like they were c 1960s, but I've not seen anything that confirms that date. The stem does look a bit newer to me than anything that would have been by Artisti Barovier. I can't put my finger on what it is -- maybe the choppiness of the fish fins?
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Hi Anita, thanks for looking and for your thoughts.  I appreciate it :)

It's a difficult one.  The V&A said they thought my tazza was a good reproduction of a much earlier piece in their collection (I have seen the original 16th c piece pictures)  but said they'd seen pieces like this being made much more recently than 19th century.

In the Met there is a jug that says possibly made by Pauly & Co, but then they say it was a gift in 1881 and it dates to c1860/1870.  From what I'd read I thought Pauly & Co came into being in 1902.

http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/186123?rpp=20&pg=13&rndkey=20130930&ft=*&where=Italy&what=Vessels&pos=253#fullscreen

 It has some vague similarities in design with my tazza and this pokal, in that it has gilded and enamelled decoration.  I'm wondering how the Met arrived at 'possibly Pauly & Co'? I was thinking that perhaps this gilding and enamelling decoration is something Pauly & Co went on to do on their pieces for some time (if I understood it correctly that Pauly & Co did make some of their own glass? ), hence the Met's 'possibly Pauly & Co' attribution.
Which led me on to wondering if my tazza and this pokal might have been made by Pauly & Co but at a later date if you see what I mean?

I suppose it might also be possible that Pauly & Co stocked this type of decorated glass supplied by another maker and that is how the Met attribution came about again, having seen a labelled piece.

The only other pieces I've come across apart from this pokal,  have been in the book Venetian Glass (page 58 and 61) and also this one
http://glessnerhouse.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/venetian-glass-ewer.html

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