Topic: Pedestal paperweight. Faked Schneider signature

[girlglassguide]

But you really don't know that, now do you? It could be a real Schneider signature on a fake paperweight from Murano. Maybe Schneider worked in Murano.

[Frank]

Yes I do, it is a close copy of the signature used by the Charles jnr son of the original Charles Schneider brothers. He did produce a very small number of paperweights in the 1960's but all clear glass abstracts.

If there is another Schneider making paperweights he is not connected to the original glass family and is thus unlikely to have a signature that matches.

[wrightoutlook]

Frank - any chance this "son" is the maker of the pedestal that is the focus of this thread? Have we all accepted that the weight is Murano and stamped Schneider by someone? And, I'm still bummed there are only two of these about which we know - mine and Mark's. Yes, I like the rarity, but I'd rather know where and when these were made, and by whom.

[Frank]

No chance at all that is was by Schneiders son.

[wrightoutlook]

It really makes you wonder where all the paperweights go and who is making them, doesn't it?

[Frank]

 I imagine that creating a complete list of people who have made paperweights since, say, 1950 would be impossible.

[Frank]

Here is a genuine labelled and signed Schneider weight. Note that the signature on the weight in this thread (above) is one used on the earlier incarnation of Schneider glassware, not paperweights.



Two views of the weight which contains a spiral of bubbles, weighs nearly 1.5Kg and is 10cm diameter. 

http://www.ysartglass.com/forum/Schneiderweight.jpg
http://www.ysartglass.com/forum/Schneiderweight2.jpg

[KevinH]

... the weight which contains a spiral of bubbles, weighs nearly 1.5Kg and is 10cm diameter. Big

That's probably why, in the literature I have seen [which is not much] about those 1960s Schneider pieces, they have been called "Glass Globes" rather than "paperweights".

And my understanding is that the signatures on the 1960s "globes" always included "France" as well as "Schneider".

This whole topic of false Schneider signatures on paperweights was discussed, with no proper conclusion, in a Yahoo!-based paperweight forum some years ago (I am no longer a member of that forum, so can't easily extract any info). But I do recall that somebody pointed to the signatures in Anne Geffken Pullin's Glass Signatures, Tradenames and Trade Marks and suggested that an example they had on a weight matched one as shown in that book. I pointed out that when compared to the marks shown in Edith Mannoni's book, Schneider, it was clear that the Pullin versions had lost part of the relevant detail in the print process! (Also, the form of the "amphora" section of the mark referred to appeared to differ with respect to the handles.) I mention this here, just in case anyone does start browsing the Pullin book in this context.

[Frank]

Some pictures have been lost, can the posters please supply new copies.