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Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« on: January 28, 2014, 04:25:54 PM »

I recently purchased this crystal (from Czech Republic)
attributes it to the seller W. Urban, but I can not find documentation for it.

Some of his rotund geometry brings me Livochovice airs ....

thanks for any guidance
Daniel Muriel . [Kristal Poesie]

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 09:42:12 PM »
  Not  Urban        :-[      Not   Libochovice


          Frantisek Vizner    -     Rosice       /  nº   622   /   1962

  * reference : Marcus Newhall  ; sklo unión: art before.........


                OPLAS!!  :)
Daniel Muriel . [Kristal Poesie]

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 12:33:03 AM »
great shape vase and good find
Have you seen them in other colours?
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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 07:24:03 PM »
I've never seen another and on the book by Marcus Newhall is also transparent (truly mine has a slight pink tint).
What surprised me is that being a work of Vizner, is so little known.
Daniel Muriel . [Kristal Poesie]

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2014, 06:44:34 PM »
Hi,

But your vase is certainly not the Rosice 622 by Vizner.  The Vizner 622 is the second vase in the second row here.  [Link from Jindrich's Ceskoslovenske Sklo website].

Sorry,
Anik

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2014, 07:09:04 PM »
I had a look in the book but couldn't see it and didn't look at the cd.
Thanks Anik - do you think it has some similarity with the Vaclav Hanus vase on page 103? pattern no 13096 for Rudolfova hut?
That one has the ribs going down to the base and is slim and tall but it does have similarities in the ribs and the neck shape.  As though OP's is a different shape of the design iyswim?
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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2014, 08:34:26 PM »
and well, things get interesting: * Jindra versus Marcus *.
I repeat: in the book "Slo Union: art bifore ...."(in CD)  this vase is recorded as 622/Rosice F.Vizner 1962.
Someone is confused  ??? :P
Daniel Muriel . [Kristal Poesie]

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 05:12:19 AM »
This has absolutely nothing to do with your imagined 'Jindra vs Marcus'.   

The Rosice 622 (which is by F. Vizner) is nothing like the vase you posted above.  The Rosice 622 is the vase seen in the link I gave, 2nd row, 2nd piece.  The Rosice 622 can also be seen in the CGR (for example in the 1963/7 and many others).

My point was that your vase is not the Rosice 622.  I don't regognise your vase, so I can't point to a designer.

Anik

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 09:49:58 AM »
Marcus's CD does show the OP's vase as Rosice 622, so the CD must be wrong but it is a catalogue image on the CD, so the true ID is perhaps in the pdfs

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Re: Urban? ... Libochovice ...?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 06:17:47 PM »
Unfortunately, I haven't got access to the CD (I haven't got a CD-reader-thingy on my computer) so I can't take a look at any of the catalogues or database.   But the Liberec catalogue of 1967 shows an image of a vase which is very different from the one originally posted above as the Vizner Rosice 622:
Vizner Liberec 1967

 

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