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Offline bat20

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 05:56:57 PM »
You can sometimes tell from the base,if it's high fired porcelain they would have to have removed the glase from the foot ring to stop it sticking to the kiln shelves or it may have been on tiny props that leave  small scars.

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2014, 06:39:39 PM »
The jug is the same uniform texture all the way around the outside and base, there are no changes in the surface even on the base and the inside is completely smooth.
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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 07:25:49 PM »
Can you feel the pattern on the inside?

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2014, 07:52:31 PM »
My understanding is that vitro-porcelain is a particular type of opaque glass made by Sowerby (which was manufactured like glass, and had many of the properties of glass, but had a composition and appearance similar to porcelain) and which first appeared in 1877. Its properties made it particularly suitable for press moulding into decorative pieces. Initially it appeared in a pale turquoise blue colour in imitation of fashionable blue Chinese porcelain, but other colours were produced soon afterwards (most commonly seen being white or black).

Other British manufacturers of pressed glass wares also produced pieces using their own versions of opaque coloured glass (which are commonly often referred to as ‘vitro-porcelain’) though I personally think that the term ‘vitro-porcelain’ should be reserve for attributed Sowerby pieces as its composition was particular to them.

As to two creamers shown here, what’s wrong with simply calling them opaque white glass?

The term ‘milk glass’ seems to be applied to a whole range of opaque or translucent coloured glasses and, rather like the term’vaseline glass’, leaves itself open to a whole range of interpretations.

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2014, 07:59:28 PM »
Yes you can feel lots of depressions on the inner surface especially with the figures, not so with the vines, they seem very smooth, the figures seem like they have been pushed into a mould also the inner base is domed shaped and very thick.
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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2014, 08:35:36 PM »
In that case I suggest it's slip moulded porcelain. Pressed glass would be smooth on the inside (the plunger is smooth with things like this) and I don't think you could mould blow with a handle like that. If the handle had not been moulded but hand applied, I would have gone with glass

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2014, 09:35:52 PM »
I think you might be right i would hate to waste anymore time on a piece of pot, it looks like it's a two piece mould and the handle has been stuck on after as the mold line for the handle and jug do not line up, i'll put up some more picks to show this.
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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2014, 09:40:33 PM »
More pics
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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2014, 09:45:38 PM »
I'm even more convinced by the little flecks in the glaze

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Re: milk glass jug Sowerby? help please
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2015, 01:01:46 PM »
Chris and Fred

The creamer on the left in reply #3 is Henry Greener, I have the creamer and matching sugar bowl is a very nice blue slag glass and both pieces have the Greener trade mark. Will start a new post to show both pieces later.

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