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Offline redheat4

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« on: May 17, 2006, 08:05:35 AM »
I have several items with the "butterfly" mark which I have always been lead to believe are Baccarat but I keep seeing references to Hoffman in association with this mark???? I have also seen a listing that said Sabino??
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2006, 08:17:22 AM »
Hi,
You are not wrong, Heinrich Hoffmann, Gablonz (now Jablonec nad Nisou) used this emblem as a mark and several variants are known.

Baccarat, used paper labels, from 1860-1936 (Jackson, "20th Century Factory Glass") which consisted of line drawings of three pieces of glass.

Images would help in eliminating makers.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2006, 10:06:03 AM »
Hoffmann are the only glassworks to use the butterfly without text or other design elements. Muller Frere and Daum used the butterfly as part of the mark.

Baccarat never used a butterfly in any references I have.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2006, 08:55:10 PM »
I don't mean a butterfly as a seperate mark but incorporated in the design as in this box, listed as baccarat in antiques trade gazzette. You cannot make it out from this picture but there is a butterfly in the bottom right hand corner, i know because i have one.

Also which Hoffman would we be talking about.

http://i4.tinypic.com/zxml9k.jpg


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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2006, 09:06:06 PM »
Heinrich Hoffmann. Have a look at Pamela's site http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/aschenbecher/ascher.html, third set of pictures down. Click to see large picture

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2006, 09:07:53 PM »
Pamela
Die Erfahrung lehrt, dass, wer auf irgendeinem Gebiet zu sammeln anfängt, eine Wandlung in seiner Seele anheben spürt. Er wird ein freudiger Mensch, den eine tiefere Teilnahme erfüllt, und ein offeneres Verständnis für die Dinge dieser Welt bewegt seine Seele.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2006, 09:09:05 PM »
Christine, lovely to meet you in this thread!  :D
Pamela
Die Erfahrung lehrt, dass, wer auf irgendeinem Gebiet zu sammeln anfängt, eine Wandlung in seiner Seele anheben spürt. Er wird ein freudiger Mensch, den eine tiefere Teilnahme erfüllt, und ein offeneres Verständnis für die Dinge dieser Welt bewegt seine Seele.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2006, 09:09:39 PM »
Snap Pamela. I was just thinking you'd been quiet lately  :D

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 09:15:33 PM »
Great thanks.
Here are a couple more I have.
I have been sorting out the loft and the garage its like christmas all over again finding stuff i have not seen for years.
http://i4.tinypic.com/zxnt5y.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/zxntj7.jpg

The amethyst is my favourite, on this one the design is in relief.

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2006, 09:17:04 PM »
SugarRock Le Casson - thank you!
Ian: the box should be traced in Hoffmanns' catalogues - a better photo could help to tell you the item #
Christine:  :?   :twisted:  thank you so much - it is the most busiest week of my life and I do not know why - really  :roll:
Pamela
Die Erfahrung lehrt, dass, wer auf irgendeinem Gebiet zu sammeln anfängt, eine Wandlung in seiner Seele anheben spürt. Er wird ein freudiger Mensch, den eine tiefere Teilnahme erfüllt, und ein offeneres Verständnis für die Dinge dieser Welt bewegt seine Seele.
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