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Author Topic: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer  (Read 2720 times)

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2014, 07:56:43 PM »
That is VERY similar….

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2014, 07:58:43 PM »
yes, I need a bit of time to look up the information and for someone else to double check it :)

I think it's important you find out the correct maker - that could lead to more information on the person who worked on the piece, or at least a 'name' of where it might have been decorated.

I will come back to you later with any more info. I'm sure this type of pattern was done by Stevens and Williams (I don't know about Webb as haven't looked up anything about them).
You could in the meantime google 'Stevens Williams Dolce Relievo' and 'Stevens Williams cameo glass' and see if you can find any more information.  Also check the Corning Museum of Glass and the Victoria and Albert Museum site as well as a site called Gorgeous Glass from Broadfield House Glass Museum.
Leave out the 'and' in the middle of Stevens and Williams and just use Stevens Williams ....
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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2014, 08:01:26 PM »
You have ALL been so helpful. Thank you so much.

Please take your time. This Los Angeles estate is full to the brim with fine antiques and it is going to take a few weeks before we are ready to open the doors.

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2014, 08:03:00 PM »
I added a bit more info in my post above for you to search on
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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2014, 08:03:56 PM »
Thank you. I am ON it!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2014, 08:33:14 PM »
http://gorgeousglass.org.uk/collections/getrecord/DMUSE_BH200/#
this one is in The Broadfield House collection also purple.
Charles Hajdamach says in his British Glass 1800-1914  regarding Stevens and Williams page 216 that 'Dolce Relievo' appeared in 1884.  It consisted of a cream ground with a purple top layer etched with acid'.
However
THE CRYSTAL YEARS  A tribute to the Skills and Artistry of STEVENS AND WILLIAMS ROYAL BRIERLEY CRYSTAL (R.S. Williams-Thomas) a book about Stevens and Williams says
'The body of the article was self coloured alabaster in an ivory shade of pale cream.  This was then cased in a variety of colours: cherry red, green, and light purple are typical examples.'

neither mention pink however The Crystal Years says it was made in a variety of colours.  I think there is one example in the V&A that is pink iirc, but would need to find it to be sure.
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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2014, 08:37:31 PM »
If it helps, they bought this in 1981 from Elsa Grimmer(maybe you know her?)
 who described it as:

"pink carved birds of paradise on ivory ground circa 1880s"
"dolce relievo" and Steven and Williams technique
"rare"

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2014, 08:50:34 PM »
sorry, forgot to add:

"both pieces have all ground decor"

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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2014, 09:01:26 PM »
I'm not sure how reliable online attributions are gong to be because we have this signed Webb piece I found earlier
https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2257/lots/6 and this unsigned piece "Stevens and Williams" piece http://humlernolan.com/Auctions/December-2012/Art-Glass/0518
 
According to Grover and Grover  talking about Stevens and Williams in English Cameo Glass "Dolce Relievo was the soft sounding name given to beautiful vases with an ivory coloured body and an outer casing of different colours, generally light purple or cream. They were decorated in low relief by the various etchers. Coloured casings were used on light backgrounds, with the ground 'peckled' or 'chipped' and the design in relief in colour. Silver mounts were used on many pieces, done by silversmiths of Sheffield or Birmingham."

I'm not sure any of the pictures that come up online  as Dolce Relievo have a peckled bakcground...

Grover has one piece on p121 attributed to S&W that might fit and another S&W attributed piece on p38 that is definitely peckled. Having been right through the book (dribble, dribble), I still think the colours are more Webb


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Re: S&W "Dolce Relievo" Cameo Glass cup and saucer
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2014, 09:05:28 PM »
OMG!

They are exactly the same…. ??? ??? ??? ???

right now I am concentrating on finding the same or similar pattern. Is that a good idea?

It's odd to me because the color seems Webb but the handle seems S&W to my untrained eye...

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