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Offline RoyJ99

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Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« on: February 24, 2014, 09:11:00 PM »
Picked this up at a local charity shop today. Hunting through all the glasses this one stood out to me, mainly because of the snapped pontil mark on the base.

Bucket bowl with a blade knop and wide foot. Dimensions are 10.5cm tall, 6cm across the bowl, 7cm across the base. The glass is fairly thick, the foot being thicker and domed. The base is slightly concave. Lots of striations and inclusions in the glass.

Apologies for the photos, my camera is not good in artificial light.

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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 09:39:24 PM »
Good find that one Roy looks early Victorian i have a good collection of these myself about a hundred although i'm never sure of the actual age of them, i have 3 the same or similar to yours but there in storage, i love all the different shapes and stems there very cheap considering the age, i'm sure someone else will be able to give you a more accurate date.
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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 09:44:05 PM »
Thanks, and you just saved me another post as I bought one exactly the same as the glass furthest to the right on your picture. I bought 3 glasses for 50p.


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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 09:55:56 PM »
That's a bargain, once you own one you will get addicted to collecting them. some people list these as 1840's 1850's some Georgian, i collect everything so i'ts tricky specialising in one thing, i think there cordial or spirit glasses, i'm sure Paul will put us straight.
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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 09:59:07 PM »
If you have a digital camera won't it let you change the settings to daylight and take a pic?
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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 10:27:54 PM »
Yeah but it always gives way better results in proper daylight. Seen them listed as Georgian myself and very new to antique glass so looking forward to some more input. Love this board and learning loads from it.


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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 10:31:45 AM »
don't think I can add much to what's already been said, and would agree they might date anywhere from c. 1810 to 1840 odd.               I have three with folded feet, and as you'd expect those have pontil scars, and I've written c. 1820 on one of them.
In general, I get the impression that with the better quality examples they have double or triple stepped collars where the stem joins the bowl  -  and this sort are often of lead glass with a good ring.

Height is commonly around 10 - 11 cms., with feet less than flat and about 6 - 6.5 cms wide.

Probably a glass that was common in taverns and pubs  -  and although I'm not sure, many of them may well have been for port - many lack quality and are quite crude in manufacture.           Origin wise, they could be from anywhere, so probably no point in speculating, other than to say that ..........      it's possible that those with cut/polished/bevelled rims are Continental, and the same sort are sometimes found with heavy slicing on the bowl.         
The cyst - where the stem joins the foot - is again very variable  -  it may just be that on the better quality examples this is smallish and well defined, rather than chunky and slightly irregular as on tavern pieces.

I've also noticed them in charity shops, occasionally, and they can often be found for 1 or less even  -  so obviously a very commonly made form of drinking glass in the first half of the C19.


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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 11:13:28 AM »
Hi Paul, thanks for the feedback. I have checked the collar and it is indeed double stepped and the glass has a nice ring to it, not the dull thud I would normally associate with glass. Can I ask what you mean by the "cyst"? Very new to glass and not a term I have heard before.

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Re: Glass with blade knop and snapped/unpolished pontil - Age?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 04:26:38 PM »
And some for those who prefer the photos on here


 

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