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Author Topic: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray  (Read 1581 times)

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Offline Mosquito

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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 01:49:04 AM »
I was surprised at the MDG label as this piece looks distinctly oriental to me: more specifically, the colours (white enamel with orange) and technique (lumpy/ blobby) remind of a lot of Chinese glass c.late 1970s-early 80s. I've seen rather similar looking wares (though admittedly not an exact match) on the various 'antique' stalls round the Shanghai area.

Is there any chance this could be Chinese production sold through the MDG shop?

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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 07:30:02 AM »
I don't think so, as the base grinding shows the same technique (finely ground but lots of little "grinds" to give almost a faint battuto effect) as on definite MDG pieces.

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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 07:59:02 AM »
Is it possible that they might have 'bought in' and 'finished off' at MDG?
I have to admit, the one I thought long shot might be Kralik, I couldnt' see clearly enough on the photos and ended up thinking it was Chinese.
It was multicoloured with a blue interior and the same clear knobbles on it on the exterior.
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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 12:16:56 PM »
The workmanship is, I would have thought, far too good to have been a bought in run-of-the-mill thing from the far east.

But have some odd "upright" fish shaped vases, (perhaps dolphin-shaped, in which case not a fish) in two colours, normally thought to be Japanese, not been found with MDG labels on?
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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 08:07:16 PM »
Well, I found one fish (they really are everywhere) ! It was bought from a charity shop along with a MDG penguin and swan all with labels. The other labels had 'hand made' plus a pattern number but the fish had a pattern number only. see photos. This conch shell looks lovely and is clearly 'hand made' but no pattern number  ??? .   


   
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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 08:17:08 PM »
 ;D Whew!
Thank-you for commenting and providing pictures too, Mike.
Seeing these were a great relief after what I'd said!

But the shell looks to be of a different quality entirely. Even Flying-Free mentioned Kralik.... :o
and she is a lady who does not miss quality!
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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 08:28:34 PM »
My brown paperweight has a label with a code and handmade http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1179

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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 10:06:30 PM »
Is it well made Christine?
Whilst much of the Chinese glass I see around now seems to be well made, some of the earlier pieces were quite hit and miss.  This by contrast does seem to be quite well controlled to my eye - it has three nice layers, the bobbles are well spaced and nicely done and the shape is also easy on the eye.  It's not ott, not too many clashing colours and not too many 'designs' all in one piece. 
And whilst the one I saw was a coloured spatter outer and a mid blue inner, the colours weren't clashing and were nicely done, and I was also drawn to it.  I had initially thought it 'might' be Kralik, but couldn't get a good enough look at the photos and decided it wasn't 'refined' enough in many ways to be Kralik.  But I still liked it, it had something and I think this does also.
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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 10:20:00 PM »
It is well made; apart from the cigarette rests, the shape is quite realistic and the colour swirls right into the point

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Re: Quiz: Guess who made this conch shell ashtray
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2014, 05:37:35 PM »
I'm a bit slow here. Not only does the label on the shell not have "hand made" on it... it's a round label.
Labels are normally rectangular.
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