Author Topic: marigold hearts and flowers (Read 1675 times)

Ivo · « **on:** May 22, 2006, 12:12:21 PM »

Despite a serious effort this little flower vase (or is a hatpinnery?) with funny ears could not be found. And now I'm looking sheepishly at Glen :oops: :mrgreen: :oops: :roll: :lol: :idea: :shock:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2043

Glen · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2006, 12:43:04 PM »

Oh, 'tis the Mary Ann vase. It was made by Dugan and is known in Classic Carnival in both amethyst and marigold.

I reported in our Network journal back in 2000 that black amethyst reproductions had been seen in this pattern - then a few months later the first marigold versions started to emerge too. We bought ourselves a "fake" and set about figuring out how to differentiate between the repros and the originals.

I'll cut a long story short and tell you that I figured out the easiest way to check (that still seems to work) is to look at the base. If it has iridescence over it, then it's a repro. If there is none - then it's an old one.

The marigold repro also tends to be more of a yellowish amber mix than an old true marigold. Looking at your photo, I would say yours is an old, Classic one.

Glen

Ivo · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2006, 01:11:27 PM »

Amazing what a turnaround speed, thanks 1,000,000 !
Old it is, there is no iridescence on the bottom and as Canrival is still not valued here it is most unlikely that fakes or replicas would make it this far.

Tigerchips · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2006, 05:30:50 PM »

I saw three pieces of carnival the other day which i think were fakes.

1) The iridescence seemed to be painted on, you could actually see the brushstrokes. :lol:

2) The base was irridescent and it was impossible to see the base colour.

Glen · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2006, 07:20:23 PM »

It's hard to say - without a photo - what they might have been. Most fakes / repros have been iridised immediately after being pressed (while very hot), and so the iridescence wouldn't be painted on.

The feature of iridescence on the base is a characteristic of some contemporary Carnival (not all) but it is a feature that is also present on some old European Carnival. It's due to the method of manufacture. In the case of old Classic USA Carnival it was "snapped up" after pressing, and was then sprayed with the iridescence while the base of the glass was covered by the tool known as the "snap".

What I'm saying is that iridescence on the base needs to be considered in the context of other features.

Glen