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Offline Leni

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« on: May 24, 2006, 09:20:05 AM »
I thought this might be a Baccarat, but it's not my usual style, so I'm not 100% sure.  The left hand spiral of the latticcinio (I never remember the right way to spell it  :oops: :roll: ) made me think so.  (Ray thinks so, too :wink: ) http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2070
Base http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2048  

What's the concensus of opinion?   :?
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 10:09:21 AM »
I'm not sure of this one. It could also be a very old Murano.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 10:55:15 AM »
My guess is Chinese, based on that shade of yellow, the yelllow-and-red cane group near, but not in, the centre, and the finish to the base.

Latticino and Latticinio each have just one "c"  :)

Something to be aware of when considering twist canes is that when looking at images in printed material, sometimes the photos are inverted (because the slide originals were set the wrong way round) and so the direction of the twist may appear at odds with the description.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006, 11:11:41 AM »
That's what I was afraid of Kev, as soon as I actually saw it 'in the glass'    :(  The base finish is very Chinese-looking and the glass is a bit bubbly and 'cloudy' under the loupe.  Oh dear, and I was hoping to make a profit on it   :(  At least I didn't pay that much!   :roll: :oops:

It's actually a very clever copy though, and the latticino canes (which do indeed twist to the left) are for the most part surprisingly well made!    :shock:  

Any idea what age?  I'd have said it definitely isn't new   :?
Leni


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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 11:50:44 AM »
Profile is very strange though, saw it on eBay, might be an idea to add one to the gallery.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 12:06:28 PM »
OK pic of profile http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2050

What do you think is strange about it, Frank?   :?
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006, 12:32:37 PM »
Without a doubt, it's China-made. But the finished-off colorful basket stave style is interesting. Reminds me of some Bohemia-made weights. Perhaps, Bohemian weights were also brought to China, along with French weights, to be copied.


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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2006, 12:47:40 PM »
Looks a bit like somebody sat on it while hot, still a gorgeous weight,
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2006, 06:20:41 PM »
If it would have any aventurine, it's very like the older Muranos, which are also quite squat.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2006, 09:00:37 PM »
Hi Leni,

I think this is an early chinese end of day / macedoine weight.
In Larry Selmans Book "Paperweights for Collectors" on Page 126 Fig 259. Nr.7 you can see a similar weight wich has also a "Made in China" signature plaque.

The Latticinio twists in this weight seems to be identical to the ones in your weight and also the flower canes look like the ones in your weight.

Baccarat weights of this design are mostly a little bit darker then the usual known end of day weights. I look out for a picture and post it later, when i will find it.

All the best
Nadine

 

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