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Offline rocco

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Lattimo elephant
« on: July 13, 2014, 12:43:42 PM »
Yet another Murano elephant :), i think a little older than the golden Fratelli Toso one I posted yesterday.
Height 19 cm, white "lattimo" glass with a slight bluish hue...

According to >> this Murano elephant collector difficult to attribute, but probably dating from the 1930s to 40s, either by Vetreria Artistica Barovier or Ferro Toso Barovier Vetrerie Artistiche Reunite S. A.
Anita has a beautiful one in her zoo, lattimo with gold, also attributed to Vetreria Artistica Barovier.

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MIchael
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 12:55:56 PM »
Oooh!  Michael I have just the spot for that one!  :)
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 01:13:40 PM »
WOW Stupendous .  ::) :'(
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 01:33:17 PM »
Thank you both :)

Michael
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 09:28:30 PM »
Wonderful elephant, but I haven't a clue. It is different than the VA Barovier elephants I've seen. Those usually have the tails that end with being attached to the right leg, then snipped. I'm not really sure if the 1930s elephants in the zoo are Barovier. I think the little white one is, but I'm beginning to think the black one might be VAMSA -- nothing definite, just a suspicion. These older elephants can be difficult.
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 06:54:30 AM »
Thank you Anita!
I assume the general agreement is that the elephant dates to the 1930s/40s? (Maker unknown...)

Michael
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 05:57:32 PM »
I personally have little doubt that this elephant is made in Murano and then I do not understand what it means (lattimo)
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 06:25:07 AM »
Ottogrunf,

Lattimo is a term started in North AMerica to mean white glass. It's not a Murano term, which would explain why you don't understand what it means. I led a one person campaign to stop the use of the term, but was swamped by current usage.

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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 07:11:18 AM »
Oh, I should know better than repeating wrong internet terminology ;D
What would be the proper term for this type of glass? Just opaque white? Or is this "pasta vitrea"?
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edit: I just found that the Loschs do use this term on their site on Venitian glass techniques: http://www.the-loschs.com/ittec.html

Company: Venini, Design: lattimo
87 - 92 lattimo / lattimo aurato / argentato
Opaque white glass / with gold / silver foil.
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@Ottogrunf: I am not sure if I understand correctly, but do you think the elephant is not from Murano?
I hadn't considered that possibility, but who knows... Where else could it have been made?

Michael
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Re: Lattimo elephant
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 07:14:59 PM »
I think the correct term is "latticino" product that is used by the glassmakers of Murano with whom I have spoken several times
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