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Offline Cláudio

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Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« on: August 30, 2014, 12:19:36 AM »
Can someone help me with this?
Thanks

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 03:10:39 AM »
This is a bit tough but if this were found in the U.S. there is absolutely no doubt it would be a Night/Guest set. Night set or Guest set meaning it would sit on a night stand close to the bed & if you woke up in the middle of the night & needed a drink of water it would be available without having to leave the bed. Now in South America I admit I am out of my element here, but it certainly would serve that purpose.

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 03:35:51 AM »
The use is the same.
I only didn't know the name in the old and classic english, night/guest set...
Here in Brazil the name is "moringa".
This set was bought from a old lady woman that traveled all around the world, so i would like to know if someone knows where it cames from...

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 03:38:09 AM »
I think you can eliminate the U.S. if it helps.

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 03:39:39 AM »
Ok, thanks, i will!

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 09:07:42 AM »
looking at catalogues produced for the home U.K. market - Silber & Fleming from the 1880 period for example - there seems to have been just the one description of 'carafe and tumbler'  -  although I've seen them described here on the GMB often as 'tumble-up'.           Regret I've no idea as to the origin or age of the description 'tumble-up'.
As to the origin of this set it really could be from almost anywhere, but my own thoughts might suggest eastern Europe, possibly. :)

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 02:10:31 PM »
S & W called them Caraffe and Up and later Caraffe and Tumbler. John Millar called them Carafe and Tumbler set. None included a plate. n.b. 1 and 2 f spellings correct. Hill Ouston simply call them Bottle and Tumbler  :)
Not appearing in most French catalogues except Portieux which list a few and simply call them Verre d'eau 3 piece, these are with a plate.
A 1922 Spanish catalogue does list them with a plate. On a quick glance none have straight necks, they are described as Juego agua mixto plato. Significantly there are many decorated in this style. Also as there are several sections of the catalogue devoted to these as well as the odd ones shown in services, they must be a popular item in Spain. But yours, if Spanish, would be later than this catalogue.

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 04:53:28 PM »
The decor appears to be a transfer, which perhaps makes it 1950s from the style?

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Re: Green water bottle, with its plate and cup
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 05:51:15 PM »
think I'd go with that having now looked more closely at the decoration.      It looks to be in very good condition.

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