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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2006, 07:51:39 PM »
Frank, I thought they would be one-sided but wasn't sure. Are they like the water-slide transfers? Somewhere I have  a catalogue from a firm who makes those for the pottery industry. I use them as centres for painted plates and suchlike.


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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2006, 08:01:18 PM »
:D:?:D

I was recently told something about commercial rug-weaving and the Jaquard process. Apparently, two rugs are woven at the same time, using the same pattern and frame, one on top and one on the bottom, so they turn out to be mirror images of each other. This was told to me by a chap selling us some amazing Jaquard rugs. It may be a load of codswallop, but perhaps the transfers were produced in a similar way?
Perhaps it was something as simple as it not mattering which side of the transfer-enamel pattern was attached to the paper used to transfer it, and one worker doing this task was left-handed. If you see what I mean. :?  :oops:
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2006, 08:21:15 PM »
These are printed onto a backing, te only way to reverse it is by reversing the negative.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2006, 08:33:11 PM »
:D:oops::D

Ok!
Was a cover then put on the backing, the way you see with temporary tattoos, etc. that peeled off at a later date? Perhaps some stuck to the cover, rather than the backing, the way etc. and artificial tattoos do?
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2006, 09:47:42 PM »
Sorry folks, just got back.

With regard to the transfer: Frank you are right about the inability to reverse them, however, Swirl might actually have been a silk-screen print and not something I can rule out at this stage.

While virtually all of the floral designs were transfers (Silhouette or Elegance weren't) I believe most of the graphic designs were silk-screen. Again, this is one of the many questions I've asked Tony Cartwright.
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2006, 09:51:52 PM »
While I think about it: Designer of Swirl?

There is a suspicion that it could have been Robert Goodden, who also designed Spiderweb. As yet unconfirmed.
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2006, 10:23:09 AM »
Finally got through this thread and found the photos David!

Here's the boars head swirl:

(http://i5.tinypic.com/11lmtc7.jpg)

(http://i6.tinypic.com/11lmtj7.jpg)

You mentioned earlier about Chance gilt not overlapping I think that's what you mean, but I could have misunderstood?

I bought a boxed set of swirl a while ago, because I could see they were immaculate condition.  The gilt on them certainly overlaps, and the overall quality is much higher than my other swirl items, even the glass feels slightly more robust.

I'm wondering if the older stuff was better made and therefore had a touch more gilt?

http://i5.tinypic.com/11lmtn7.jpg   <~ the swirl
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2006, 10:46:30 AM »
Thanks Max!

Oh heck, I've just noticed the swirls go in the 'right' direction! :shock:

I'd always assumed this was Filigran (Unionglas, German), but I'm not sure now. Erm, can you give me the exact sizes, pretty please 8) Could be a customised Chance item, so possibly quite scarce.

With regard to the gilt overlapping, this does occur on some pieces (carafe for example), but it might have been confined to older pieces as you surmise. Tony Cartwright mentioned that – he was quite definite about this – this was never a Chance feature. However he was 'only' at Chance from 1959-81!

The gilt does vary in brightness too. I've yet to determine any reason for this, but could be age related, or how it's been exposed to sunlight, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2006, 01:09:27 PM »
Web site updated to include Christine's Swirl example (possibly Twist), Max's 'boar' dish and some other odd 'uns.
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2006, 01:43:58 PM »
Max's boxed set has gilding much like my Fligran 'Swirl' a bright gold colour and overlapping about 2mm. My Night Sky has a bright coppery gold edging (quite a different shade) that overlaps about 1 mm and other known Chance I've seen has quite dull, almost an old gold, gilding.

 

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