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Offline Glen

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 01:35:13 PM »
Thanks, Frank  :lol:

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 03:35:56 PM »
I found some cats but no match. Countries mentioned for sources of glassware are Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Venice (murano), Italy, Denmark & France.

Portugal is mostly handblown, or pressed milk glass.
Sweden pressed milk glass.
Germany & Czechoslovakia cut glass
Belgium & France general glassware.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 05:50:41 PM »
Hi,

Frank, thanks very much for having a look through the catalogues.

Glen, You are right that Weil did call this Barolac. I note from recent editions of PK certainly PK2006-1 and 2006-2, that at least two importers used labels bearing the word Barolac. What is intriguing is the use you mention of a Bohemia Crystal label. Rudolfova, where most Barolac was made was not a lead crystal plant, yet Podebrady was, albeit until 1950. Such a label would indicate fabrication elsewhere than Rudolfova.

I'm looking now to try to find any publicity or catalogues from Sklarny Inwald, from the period 1946-1958, that give an indication of the range being produced in the immediate post-war period.

One other aspect of this is the mirror-polished base of the vase. I am still attempting to pin down a date for the change from mirror polishing, (as with pre-war Inwald,) to the matte-polished base associated with VHJ Obalovane a Lisovane Sklo and Sklo Union production.

Thanks again all,

Regards,

Marcus


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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2006, 08:25:18 PM »
Hi Marcus, I too have often wondered about this design, having seen it offered for sale in the past. I always assumed it was a later design, though the swirls on the body do seem a little reminiscent of the bodies of the dragons on the dragon charger. Certainly I have never seen an example which I felt to be pre war.

Could I ask you to elaborate regarding your comments on the polishing of the base of the item. I have handled a number of larger Barolac vases, mostly opal examples believed to be pre-war (some signed, some not). I would not have described the bases of these as mirror polished. The footrims, though polished are still sometimes slighty matt, such as in this example I was recently watching on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Art-Deco-Opalescent-Art-Glass-Vase-Verlys-Type-Koi_W0QQitemZ7415954618QQ
It's sometimes difficult to determine what the original finish was, however, as these items do, due to their weight, tend to accumulate wear very quickly. Does the mirror polish only apply to items which have not been matted/ satinized? Certainly from what I remeber, the polished finish was not as bright as on contemporay pieces by Verlys, for example.

Unfortunately I don't have any photo's of the bases of my pieces for comparison as they are currently being stored at my parent's house. I will review them next time I visit & examine the bases to see if i can find out anything. I have some vases which both I and Siegmar believe to be prte-war but unfortunately I don't remember exactly how the bases are finished; if I find anything which might be of help as a reference for dating pieces, I will add it.

Unfortunately again, I don't yet have an example of the vase in question all I can say is that I don't recall seeing any catalogue references for the design other than Jo's post. Certainly it lacks the naturalistic style of most Barolac, though having said that, given the variety of designs being made by many companies during that period, that observation could be misleading.

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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2006, 09:09:47 PM »
I'll add my observation of Inwald items from the 1920s - 1930s. Inwald's Carnival produced around this time is very distinctive and recognisable on account of the smooth mirror-shiny base grinding. The glass was "stuck up" and therefore ground after cooling. Although many European makers used a similar method, only Inwald's glass had a characteristic "polished" look.

The area of grinding is usually around the outer edge of the rim. I've just looked at my opalescent Barolac "Loss of the Revenge" vase, and yes, the ground section of the base has a smooth, shiny grind.

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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2006, 09:34:06 PM »
Hi Steven and Glen,
The vase in question has a mirror-polished base which is very different to most, if not all the VHJ, Sklo Union items I have here.
This vase has some serious wear, yet still retains the polished base.
I know this item has been less well cared for, yet do not believe this is anything but post-war production.
As noted earlier, I have some worries that some of these items may not be Rudolfova Hut' production, but the item in question suggests an extremely pure sodium-potash glass associated with Rudolfova.
Barolac as a marque is normally only associated with Inwald. This item in both design and production quality terms, to me, is Inwald, though not necessarily Barolac per se.
Will post an image of the base in the morning.
regards,
Marcus


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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2006, 12:26:32 AM »
I have a satin version of the vase in question. I've just checked and it's finished with the same smooth ground/polished finish on the base as my other 'Barolac'  (marked and unmarked) pieces, definitely not high gloss.
Let me know if anyone wants a photo and I'll try and take one.
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o


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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2006, 03:33:23 PM »
Hi,
As promised an image of the base of this vase.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10018/normal_Inwaldvasebase2.JPG
Note the heavy wear to the centre of the foot, but clearly still showing what I would define as mirror polishing, acid-etched Tchechoslovaquie to the bottom if the image.
And a slightly better image of the vase.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10018/normal_Inwaldvase1.JPG

Regards,

Marcus


 

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