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Author Topic: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern  (Read 1429 times)

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Offline auliya

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I am hoping someone can help with identifying this bowl. It is similar to Walther's Luxor pattern, but clearly not the same. It measures 10 inches in diameter and 2.75 inches high - it has no markings. Thanks in advance for any ideas
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Auliya

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 05:53:27 AM »
Auliya, this certainly is Walther's dragon-fly  LIBELLE
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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 08:29:46 AM »
Thank you SO much Pamela, I had searched high and low but missed that :-) Very happy about that as I wanted to put a Walther figure and frog with it :-)
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Auliya

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 09:48:10 AM »
Splendid idea, will you show it here, please ?  :-*
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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 11:00:10 AM »
Can anyone tell me the difference between "Luxor" and "Libelle" ?

The "Libelle" pattern for the bowls shown in the 1937 Walther catalogue seems to match the photo for "Luxor" shown in Pamela's website. I have bowls at all 3 sizes given for "Libelle" in the catalogue. They too seem to match the "Luxor" photo. There is some reference to "Libelle" in the text accompanying Pamela's "Luxor" photo but I don't understand it.
John

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 11:41:12 AM »
I think it's the patterning. Libelle looks sort of scribbly and Luxor looks like lines

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2017, 06:18:17 PM »
Thank you Christine.
John

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 08:12:48 PM »
I've been wondering for some time about the similarities between Luxor and Libelle.  Pamelas Luxor vase has a smaller, lower base and is quite slim, with a flat rim.  The vase I bought as Luxor has a larger base, is more bulbous and has a crenelated rim.

Pamelas Luxor bowl also appears to have a flat rim but the Libelle bowl has a crenelated rim.

I also have another bowl that I haven't been able to identify.  The base and patterning are identical to the vase and both have the same patterning as on the bowl.  Again the rim is crenelated, although flattened.

Could it perhaps be that the pieces I have are all Libelle rather than Luxor?  That Luxor had flat rims while Libelle was crenelated?

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 08:27:13 AM »
To add to the above.

Does anyone know if the two patterns were in production at the same time?  Is it possible that the Luxor was remodelled and re-issued as the Libelle?

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Re: Help Please - Large bowl ID needed. ID = Walther "Libelle" pattrern
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 12:09:42 PM »
It's the patterning. Libelle is a fine pattern if you look at Auliya's bowl. Luxor is a much coarser irregular web

 

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