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Offline Ivo

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« on: June 09, 2006, 02:09:13 PM »
I was told at the pressglass conference last week that this Barolac daisy box appears in the post war Czech export catalogue as designed by Jurnickl. I'd like to find out how come.
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 02:46:31 PM »
Hi Ivo,
I'm afraid you may only have part of the story.
This image may indicate the issues:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10018/normal_SUR_74_1619_M_190_%20Jurnikl.JPG
I am emailing you about this.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 03:26:30 PM »
But it is "Marguerites" as shown in the early Barolac catalogue that had John Jenkins name on. I have seen the original blueprint.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 01:25:27 PM »
Apologies, to board members.

This was an un-satisfactory response on my part.

To clarify the issues involved. Barolac pattern "Marguerites", was produced pre-war. This is undoubted. Certainly the box, as Ivo's example, and an ash-tray, 13190, were produced at Rudolfova Hut'.

Where this becomes a little-pear shaped, is that, whether or not the pattern is already in existence, any new items added to the range, during the communist era, were credited to the designer of the new pieces. I know of at least three cases, where Czechoslovakian designers of later pieces, have been so credited.

In this particular instance, there is clear evidence of new items, patterned in "Marguerites", being designed  in 1973/4, by Rudolf Jurnikl. These were produced at Rosice, and thus have Rosice pattern numbers. There is also a possibilty that he designed new pieces for a pattern called "Pansy" during the same period.

As to Barolac and new post-war designs being added to the Barolac range, I have documentary evidence of two pieces (possibly new patterns) being added to the range, designed by Jiri Brabec, in 1969, and made at Rosice, not Rudolfova Hut'. Sadly as yet I have no images, but will try to find some.

As this new information was discovered, it was passed on, but obviously a minor break-down in communication may be to blame.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 02:27:40 PM »
These will be the later ones then.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7421683572

Maybe we should refer to the original Jenkins-Inwald Barolac range as Classic original Barolac?

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2006, 04:36:42 PM »
Hi Glen,
Barolac Classic, seems a good idea, if wishing to distinguish between original line, and post-war additions.
 
In the example you give, I cannot confirm these as a later added product.
The known additions all have vertical sides, and include vase, imaged above, large low-sided bowl. small stacking bowls and a candle-holder.

We have a slight hole in the records, and finding a war-time Inwald catalogue, is going to be difficult.

Lists of pattern numbers without images is not helpful. (I know, I'm just working on Sklo Union and Skrdlovice/Beranek imaged data-bases, for the glass community, and it is difficult.)

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Marcus

 

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