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Offline liberty1

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Caribbean decorated tumblers who designed them?
« on: June 21, 2006, 06:48:04 PM »
Hello Everyone.
Bought these tumblers along with a fifties bar a few months ago and just getting around to trying to find out who designed them. My thoughts were with Chance or even Alexander Hardie Williamson although my investigations have come to  nothing.
Each of the glasses is depicting a different Caribbean dance or musical instrument and apart from slight gilding missing there is very little wear so I am beginning to doubt if they are even old.
Can any of  you experts help me out. Thanks in advance as always.

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Doris


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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 08:03:58 PM »
In Millers collectable's 2005 page 332, the shape (if yours is by Ravenhead) with it's gold rim is the hardest shape to find.

No size given though.  :evil:

This pattern isn't in any of my books, perhaps it is not commonly seen or it's by a different maker.


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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 10:01:50 PM »
Only a quick opinion, but I have been keeping a bit of an eye on this market and don't recognise these as Alexander Hardie Williamson.  However, I'd describe these as kitsch and worth holding onto for a while before selling...if that's what you want to do.  Only my opinion though.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 10:39:38 PM »
Me again
Thank you both  Tiger and Max
Tiger: Interestingly Alexander Hardie Williamson designed for Ravenhead in the 60'sso although I haven't identified the particular design it looks promising. I have a leaflet about Ravenhead glass and looked at that first but it only showed the tumblers with the splish/splash designs.---and I only have the 2004 Millers collectables and its not in that. Ho hum!!

Max.
My daughter should have been a teenager in the fifties/sixties as she has her  name on these glasses and my fifties bar and other bits and pieces I have from that era i.e. Pineapple Ice  Bucket but I will hold on to them for the moment . Trouble is my house is gettting smaller and smaller  :(
Thanks for the input will keep looking.

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Doris


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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 08:47:16 AM »
:D :shock: :D

AHW did do over 1000 designs for glasses at this time.

I'd say that this was a highly desirable sort of pattern and worth a fair bit even without a maker, just on the grounds of being wonderfully kitsch.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 10:42:33 AM »
In my very dim and distant past I see to recall this pattern being called calipso, or calypso, but I haven't been able to find anything to confirm this, and my memory is not what it used to be!


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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 10:45:29 AM »
Not Chance anyway to the best of my knowledge. They produced a set with Flamenco dancers and another with Galleons, but not Calypso dancers.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2006, 10:47:46 AM »
Another possibility is Sherdley, BTW :idea:
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2006, 11:30:08 AM »
Could be any of dozens of firms, including Pirelli.

It is no neccesarily the case that glass company designed the transfers, they could have just bought standard stock from companies such as Mattheys. Until catalogues from the transfer makers are found it would be difficult to attribute without a contemporary advet for the design. These can be found in Women's and Household magazines of the period.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2006, 11:46:09 AM »
That's true: although Johnson Matthey, Ben Capper or Baileys would also have produced transfers to the customers design, as they did with Chance. Anne does have a fairly recent Baileys catalogue so it might just be listed in here.

I will be going to Himley Hall on Wednesday to scour Tableware International and Pottery Gazette to cover this period so if I find these I'll let you know.

Any other requests? :)
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