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Author Topic: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert  (Read 7178 times)

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl ID please
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2015, 04:15:37 PM »
And then to think I almost didn't buy it.
Luckily the antique fair was close to home so I went back for it.
And the price was so low  :) :o I thought oh well, it can always be used in the kitchen.
I'm glad so many people got direct or indirect enjoyment out of it.

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2016, 08:35:09 AM »
I thought you might like to see this.  Sold through Sotheby's in 2007 under Russian Sale Works of Art.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/lot.389.lotnum.html/2007/russian-sale-works-of-art-faberge-l07113


'A silver-mounted coloured glass claret jug, Adrian Ivanov, Moscow, 1908-1917
the tapering orange and yellow body cut with diamond facets within elipses, the handle and collar with chased bands of stylised grapes and vine leaves, knop finial, 84 standard
height: 29.2cm, 11 1/2 in'

I have seen uranium glass used in Russian Glass and dredging my memory, something makes me think I also have seen a two colour overlay glass piece in a museum collection in Russia, but as I recall that was dark green over yellow I think.  No makers label on it though as I remember checking.

However, the shape and the notching up the neck of the body look familiar as 'VSL' identifiers perhaps, so an option is that the body is VSL and the silver is Russian. 

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2019, 09:45:35 PM »
Not really linked to Christine's bowl as it's different design and different colours, but the discussion sometimes comes up re coloured overlay glass cut over uranium glass.
 I've just come across a very dark red cut bowl cut to uranium on a Russian site, similar shape to this one but different design and it is being sold as J. Riedel.  I don't know if that id is correct or not ( I don't have the Riedel book and my knowledge of Riedel glass is absolutely minimal) but just thought I'd add the info in case the discussion re cut to uranium comes up again.

https://www.livemaster.ru/item/30057305-vintazh-vaza-dlya-fruktov-salatnitsa-uranovoe-steklo-j-riedel

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2019, 07:39:34 AM »
and another from  Wilhelm Steigerwald Regenhütte:

https://antikes-glas.de/en/regenhuette/stemmed-glass-roman-wilhsteigerwald-regenhuette-1920-p-1070.html

also orange coloured glass over uranium - the bowl cut and coloured orange over uranium, the stem clear

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #64 on: July 05, 2019, 07:21:52 AM »
Hey M,

I had not noticed your message from January  ::)

Your theory's correct, the body of the jug is by VSL. I don't think it has been altered but a customised order. It is illustrated in the 1908 catalogue as a decanter without the silver mounting and is called 'Sabine', shape and pattern both have this name. Normally the neck would have been bit longer and with stopper it would have been available in two sizes, 32,5 cm and 25 cm. They probably had to shorten the neck otherwise  the handle would have ended up too high on this piece, it would  have been too heavy at the bottom, making using it awkward and difficult to incline to pour whatever it was filled with.

I have learned recently that at VSL at the time anything was possible, different patterns on different models, anything could be discussed and customised and this is one of the reasons that a lot is not catalogued and as this jug was made to order, it wouldn't have been catalogued anyway. I have often wondered why a lot is not documented but this makes sense. Imagine being invited at a high society dinner party at the time. Your crystal glassware was a statement and you didn't want the same as mr and mrs X ... you wanted something even better and more impressive, just to show off and show everybody how well-off you were. VSL, amongst other i guess, played in on this and basically created an 'options menu', from which you could choose and actually, that still excists today. The finished product wasn't and isn't just that, it can be personalised and altered to any requirements.
 

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #65 on: July 05, 2019, 07:31:01 AM »
Hi :)

That's good to know. Thank you for providing all the details.  I thought it looked 'familiar'.
It doesn't surprise me that items could be customised. 
I have read somewhere (don't quote me), that glass from VSL was supplied to the USA for cutting as well iirc.

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2019, 07:34:15 AM »
No that is incorrect, everything was done on the spot. The technique however, did come from America and the name 'taille americaine' or American cut is still used today.

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Re: Art cut amber to uranium lead crystal fruit bowl. ID = Val St Lambert
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2019, 07:50:12 AM »
flying free said:
'I have read somewhere (don't quote me), that glass from VSL was supplied to the USA for cutting as well iirc.'


Anne Tique said:
'No that is incorrect, everything was done on the spot. The technique however, did come from America and the name 'taille americaine' or American cut is still used today.'


Thank you for clarifying that.

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