Topic: Whitefriars production colours

[vidrioguapo]

Tell you what....I'll let my glass know that you care, maybe you could be surrogate custodians? In the meantime - it's all MINE!!

Your suggestions above, would need a site all of it's own - a mamouth task and my own photography skills are not up to it, but got to admit it would be brilliant.

Emmi

[David E]

I probably didn't make myself terribly clear, but I was just thinking of a single 'swatch' photo of every colour, but I wasn't advocating every colour with every pattern, which I agree would be a nightmare! :shock:

[vidrioguapo]

Yes, I understand what you mean David, but in the meantime, this will have to suffice.

As David Hier suggested above, it may be worthwhile to make this into a "sticky" for future easy reference, as this posting will soon get lost under the deluge of new messages.

N.B. there is a "glich" or two in the colour reference, nothing serious, but will be put right ASAP.  Just a typographical error!! Otherwise it is as accurate as can be .

[Cathy B]

Thanks for this, Emmi! It's a fantastic reference.

For me, the most troublesome problem is with distinguishing the various shades of blue. The others *seem* to be easier. I think I have swans in arctic blue, sapphire blue and now sky blue, but I'm just not sure.

How much variability was there between the individual batches, I wonder? Were they fairly consistent?

All the best,
Cathy

[David E]

OK Emmi, something to consider for later.

I imagine Frank will want to archive this.

[TomB]

Hi. I'm new to this stuff but have a large collection of Baxter designs. I can't seem to find any research linking colours and the number of vases made in that colourway. For instance I have collectors claiming the indigo Banjo vase was only made a total of 78 times, then another claiming 600 times and another for 213! Is there a log available, either on-line or in a museum? Tom

[Paul S.]

Hello Tom - welcome to the GMB   
For someone who is new, it sounds as though you've done very well in forming a large collection of Baxter designs.         Are you suggesting this information is available somewhere in archive form - though present whereabouts unknown -  or is it more the case that you wish it was as this would be an interesting aspect to collectors.           Do you know if those collectors making claims as to numbers made, in certain colours, have some form of provenance to support their claims?       I'd suggest that people making such comments should at least have made some research to substantiate this info  -  have you asked these collectors for the source of their information?

I know less than nothing about this particular side of Baxter's output, and could be very wrong, but would have thought it possibly unlikely that the archives for such designs - assuming there are such things as accessible extant archives - might have included such detailed accurate data made at the time of production.

Now watch someone tell me I'm wrong

[glassobsessed]

The information came from the workbooks at the factory, each blowers output was recorded, including both shape and colour. I think at least some of that information was available on whitefriars.com which is now no longer functioning. Don't know if any of it is available on whitefriars.org but may be worth asking there. Alternatively look for Whitefriars collectors groups on facebook and ask.

John

[Paul S.]

thanks John  -  is it known what happened to the factory 'workbooks' you mention?

[glassobsessed]

You need a 'Friars aficionado for such questions Paul rather than me! I do remember seeing a photograph of a page from one though, it listed how many of a particular pattern number were made on a given day and in which colour.