Topic: chance spiderweb ??

[spotsandstripes2]

David, what do you think of this please,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Glass-Large-Salad-Dessert-Bowl-6-Matching-Dessert-Bowls-Blue-Pattern-/161902150905?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=e7KJ6YJ3x2jZObBKdgQtrDgcgxw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
It appears to have the Greco border and similar style to chances but I can't find reference on the nets or in Additions. Could it be Chance?
 sue

[Lustrousstone]

Much more likely to be German in my opinion

[spotsandstripes2]

Hi Christine, interesting.. I read that some of the spiral copys were German, was it a particular company that produced the Chance like glass or more widespread.  Was there no copyright on any of the Chance transfers or were they open to free reproduction... were their any limits?
 so many questions lol  😊 the more I find out the more I want to know haha... I could really get into this 

[David E]

Definitely continental. As per Chance Additions p.102-113, there are a few more possibilities, such as Holland (Flamingo), W.Germany (Spiegelunion) and E. Germany (VEB), all of which produced Chance-alike designs, plus a new one that I've discovered called White Goose (Holland) that produced a Lace pattern complete with Spirograph border, which is identical to Chance. Whether these were copies or licensed through Chance is anyone's guess. The printing on this bowl (not blue) is actually a light-grey and probably using the Durographic process that was first developed in Denmark.

[spotsandstripes2]

Mmm , ill have to look the durographic  process up. So quite a few European countries did copies and variations. I wonder if maybe variations were to used to circumnavigate possible copyright infringement. Interesting. Thanks David

[spotsandstripes2]

David, at closer inspection of Additions there's reference to a floral Greco pattern on p109 which albeit it being square and on blue glass, is an almost identical design 😊

[David E]

You really need my first book, Chance Expressions, which covers these topics along with identification of all the patterns known in 2007 and further background detail. Spiegelunion was a known copier of Swirl, but with VEB being East German the contravention of designs was almost impossible to stop and both companies did cause problems to Chance.

The blue tinted tray in my book does bear a lot of similarities so could well have come from the same factory.