No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Is This Perthshire PP6 or PP1? ID = PP2. pre-1978  (Read 854 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline cxgirl

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 121
Is This Perthshire PP6 or PP1? ID = PP2. pre-1978
« on: May 19, 2016, 06:38:40 PM »
Hi,
Is this Perthshire PP6 or PP1? It is 2 1/2" diameter, label on the bottom but no date or letter cane.
I looked in The Complete Guide to Perthshire Paperweights, and still not sure. This has 13 radial twists separating cane groups of 1-1-2-2-.
Any information appreciated.
Mary

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6297
    • England
Re: Is This Perthshire PP6 or PP1?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 04:55:23 PM »
Hi Mary,

PP1 or PP6?

First of all, checking the back of the book for sizes ... page 166 ... 2 1/2 inch = Medium; Large is 3 inch. Now go back to the PP6 detail on page 82 where it says 1969- 1971 was Medium size and 1972 - 1977 was Large size. So, at 2 1/2 inch, it might be PP6 1969 to 1971, but for those, a star cut base was used. Your weight does not have a start cut base, so it is not the earlier ones of PP6.

That rules out out any form of PP6, without even considering colour of the ground or the lack of a central "P" cane. So it's a PP1 - and the lack of a "P" cane means it is pre-1978.
KevinH

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline cxgirl

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 121
Re: Is This Perthshire PP6 or PP1? ID = PP1. pre-1978
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 05:27:43 PM »
Thank-you for your detailed answer Kevin! I was back and forth as the book says the PP1 was a large miilefiori weight and then as you say the PP6 had a star cut base - so I'm glad to know what it is :)
So much to learn with paperweights - this message board and your folks are a real saving grace for me!
Mary

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6297
    • England
Re: Is This Perthshire PP6 or PP1? ID = PP1. pre-1978
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 12:14:53 AM »
Oops! I got it wrong. I did not take the analysis far enough.

As you say, the PP1 was a "large" weight (3 inch). Since yours is Medium (2 1/2 inch) and not a PP6, it must be a PP2; but like the PP1 designs it is also pre-1978 because of the lack of a signature cane.

The book shows that there were a variety of designs for many of the "PP" numbers. Although in the book a 1-1-2-2 design is not stated or illustrated for the PP2 versions, it was, I assume, one of the variations. Unless, of course, it is a Medium sized PP1 ... which is not covered in the book.

Simple, really. :)
KevinH

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Look for glass on
ebay.co.uk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Look for glass on
ebay.com (us)
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand