Topic: Sowerby pattern 1505 for show.

[brucebanner]

I can not see this one on here, i think the lozenge reads RD 350083.

4 inches in length, 2 inches in height and 1 3/4 inches in depth.

[brucebanner]

Another shot of the lozenge.

[Paul S.]

this is one of eleven Registrations from 24th May 1880, and looking at the Kew drawing appears to be 350085.        Don't have all of my books to hand presently unsure how we get to 350083 - is it Cottle perhaps?

Presumably, if this design not been on here before then might mean this is a rare  ish piece??        So it's a vase then - perhaps a posy vase.

[brucebanner]

The RD Paul was the first one listed on the great glass marks web site, I did not know what else to put having only that and the pattern book to go by. I'm not sure if these pieces are rare I just do not think there are enough people looking for them or sharing them when they find them or even know what they are looking at.

[agincourt17]

Thank you  for showing this rarity, Chris, and thank you, Paul, for showing the corresponding Sowerby design representation.

I was drafting out this reply before Paul had posted his reply, so there may still be some crossover of information.

Sowerby pattern 1505 is shown on page 10 of their pattern book IX (1882) , but I can't recall seeing any photos of actual examples anywhere else.  The design representation describes it as a 'vase' as do Simon Cottle and Jenny Thompson.

The lozenge is for 24 May 1880 - Parcel 8, which covers a bundle of 11 designs - RDs 350083 to 350093 inclusive.
Simon Cottle  ("Sowerby -Gateshead Glass", page 103) collates most of the RDs in the bundle with their pattern numbers as follows:

RD 350083   pattern 1480    bowl       IX, p10
RD 350084   pattern 1482    sugar basin   IX, p10
RD 350085               vase      
RD 350086               dish
RD 350087   pattern 1473   basket    IX, p9
RD 350088   pattern 1475   basket    IX, p9
RD 350089   pattern 1482   bowl & jug     IX, p10
RD 350090   pattern 1477   bowl     IX, p9
RD 350091   pattern 1474   trinket    IX, p9
RD 350092   pattern 1476   trinket    IX, p9
RD 350093            butter dish   

Now, thanks to Paul, we know that RD 350085 is definitely Sowerby pattern 1505, and, assuming that Cottle's collation of the other RDs is correct, that only leaves RDs 350086 and 350093 from the bundle to be allocated their corresponding Sowerby pattern numbers.

Fred.

[Paul S.]

A good find I would imagine Chris.             Please let me know Fred if you require Kew images for any or all of the other ten Registrations....   
I may of course already have posted some of them, but for the moment don't recall.

[brucebanner]

It's good to complete the whole picture, thanks both and I'll post any others I find that are not pictured or I can not find info on and anyone can use the pictures, regards Chris.

[agincourt17]

Paul, the only design representation pic from that I have from this RD 350083-350093 bundle is the RD 350085 image that you have posted here.

Pics of design representations for RDs 350086 and 350093 would be very useful, please, as they would (hopefully) help reveal the corresponding Sowerby pattern numbers and thereby complete the collation for all eleven designs.

Fred.

[Paul S.]

o.k. -  will do later today.

[Paul S.]

trust these will help  -  and if you do want any of the others from that date, let me know.