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Author Topic: rock-crystal style in a polished bright technique - wine glass by whom?  (Read 138 times)

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Offline realroamer

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Does anyone recognize this pattern? The form looks like it may be Stevens and Williams

Thank you all for your help
Scott

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Re: Is this a Stevens and Williams patter
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2016, 08:50:20 PM »
hello - welcome to the GMB :)

It's vastly inconclusive I appreciate, but I don't see this pattern in R. S. Williams-Thomas' book 'The Crystal Years' - unfortunately, the book includes exceptionally few examples of what must have been a substantial output in what I'm assuming is 'intaglio' work.
Technically, this method of shallow decoration differs from true cutting by being held under the wheel or stone  -  as opposed to cutting proper where the glass is held over the stone and the decorator looks through the glass.
Intaglio can apparently be bright polished (as appears with this piece), or left dull (matte).

Although not true rock crystal cutting, it's sometimes referred to as 'rock-crystal style in a polished bright technique', of which Thomas Webb produced examples in the early C20, and have a feeling we've discussed similar work by Jack Lloyd who was working for both Webb Corbett and Thomas Webb in the first third of the C20.                Assume you've had a good look for a signature or initials on the pattern.               

I suspect that as with many other forms of decoration applied to glass, this was a process that certainly wasn't confined to S. & W., and unless someone recognized the pattern you may struggle for a positive id.  -    lovely glass though    -   as a matter of interest what was the source of your S. & W. suggestion? :)


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Re: Is this a Stevens and Williams pattern
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 02:47:07 PM »
Thank you Paul for your most informative message.

Yes, I have look for a signature or mark of any kind but do find one.

My theory on this perhaps being Stevens and Williams pattern was more base on form than anything else. I found comparable "documented" Stevens and Williams pieces on line so thought perhaps this was just a different cut pattern.

Attached is an image of other pieces in the set

All the best,
Scott

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Re: Is this a Stevens and Williams pattern
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 03:57:39 PM »
thanks Scott  -  I think there's going to be some very envious people on the GMB - a truly marvellous collection - you are lucky to have these. :)

Not everyone looks into the GMB on a regular basis, and it's always possibly that given time someone will recognize the pattern/origin of the design on your glasses  -  fingers crossed.

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