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One of the Bohemian (assumed) vases that have been dogging Monart collectors for year has shown up on eBay with a signature "T Y G" or "T V G"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260007069091

I don't particularly like the look of the signature and I cannot be 100% sure it is the same type of glass, bit I do have an example in this colouring. Usually the are Orange/Amber and Green, or Red and Blue.

Examples are on the 2nd and 3rd rows here: http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm

Any ideas on this signature which is not in Hartmann?
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 01:46:16 PM »
T V G = Teign Valley Glass ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 01:49:47 PM »
The only TVG I know of is Teign Valley Glass. I believe they sign their pieces with a TGV in diamond point, though this piece doesn't look like any of their current output. I'm not familiar with their earlier pieces though, I think they have been active since the early 80's so it might be worth looking into.


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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2006, 01:51:35 PM »
This was made in the 1930's to 50's
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 02:34:40 PM »
This is the signature on a Teign Valley Glass perfume bottle I have, for comparison. There are some differences but that could just be another hand.


http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2604

Hope it may help.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 02:58:44 PM »
TVG is, indeed, Teign Valley Glass.
They have a website: http://www.teignvalleyglass.com/about.htm But perhaps they no longer make the coloured "spatter-ware" as the current selections are entirely different.

I have a small vase, 3 7/8 inch (9.8 cm) height, in the same colouring as the one shown in the eBay listing and with "T V G" marked to the edge of the "pontil area". The signature is almost invisible under normal scrutiny.

Pics:
Complete item: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2609
Detail of Colouring: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2608
(Note the way the red is spaced out and the occasional spots of yellow.)
Base form: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2607
(you'd need the eyes of hawk to see the signature!)
Signature: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2606
(as it is in colour, but under high magnifacation)
Signature enhanced: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2605
(monochrome image, general form of lettering highlighted in white - note that it seems the tool slipped and there is a double down-stroke for the "T")

The overall look of the way the colour is applied is similar to the work of Wedgwood glass, such as for their animals (elephants, owls etc.) I have never really thought of these (TVG or Wedgwood) as being the same as the examples that have been shown in the ysartglass pages. But I can see that some, from a distance do have a likeness. And maybe some of those shown really were out of TVG (or Wedgwood??).
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 04:02:45 PM »
Ahh well, back to the hunt :cry:
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