Author Topic: My Recent Find - Guess What it is! (Read 4147 times)

David Hier · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2006, 03:29:25 PM »

Agreed.

I can certainly understand how it's possible for one person to see certain attributes in Monart, which others cannot.

It's simply a matter of personal opinion.

Frank · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2006, 05:17:16 PM »

Since that has been settled I would like to add that the similarities referred to might show in a smallish photograph but not in the flesh - I know the type of pieces David refers to and they are very different from Mdina in the flesh.

The basic techniques used are inevitably similar but the execution of thos techniques is quite different.

chopin-liszt · « **Reply #22 on:** July 24, 2006, 07:51:00 AM »

:shock:

Are there any examples of these on your site, Frank? I'd love to know which ones they are. :?

Frank · « **Reply #23 on:** July 27, 2006, 05:40:41 PM »

David thank you for the ATG booklet. But, Oh dear, it has quite a few errors and also has a wrongly attributed piece on - Page 33 Blue/yellow stripey.

See http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm 3rd row.

If that was at a Lyon & Turnbull sale, they were told. But at frequently happens at that sale room they ignore identifications. They have sold many fakes as genuine.

Who is Roland Arkell?

Della · « **Reply #24 on:** July 27, 2006, 05:54:06 PM »

Frank,
You have a full stop at the end of the url so it isn't working. :wink:
You can delete this after you have altered the link. :lol:

Frank · « **Reply #25 on:** July 27, 2006, 06:26:54 PM »

:oops:

Glasshound · « **Reply #26 on:** July 27, 2006, 07:40:10 PM »

Steuben?

No way... the signature has to be a fake...

They never made anything even remotely close to this...

just my two and a half cents..

/Blair

Connie · « **Reply #27 on:** July 27, 2006, 08:57:18 PM »

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/hawkesnest/item/ST-GrTh?froogle=1

http://www.eldreds.com/sales/detail.php?itemID=100728

Lot 2187

http://www.dargate.com/248_auction/248_images/248glass.htm

It is a commonly signed pattern - all with the 1930s fleur-de-lis mark

Edited to add:

There is a very nice Steuben Bristol Yellow with Black threading 3 piece perfume set pictured in The Collector's Encyclopedia of American Art Glass by John Shuman III. It says that it is marked with the fleur-de-lis mark also.

I guess all the pieces are fake with fake marks

:roll:

Glasshound · « **Reply #28 on:** July 27, 2006, 09:11:38 PM »

The threading on your bowl is scattered all over it...on pieces of "real" Steuben the threading is fairly uniform and concentrated along the top.

Your bowl is definitely NOT Steuben and most likely Bohemian / Czech. :roll:

/Blair

Della · « **Reply #29 on:** July 27, 2006, 09:33:05 PM »

Hi Connie,

I cannot comment on the piece in question as I really don't have a clue and would not claim to know.

I have done a bit of googling and came across this page:

http://brokenshards.homestead.com/Signatures.html

I stress, that I am not making any judgements as this is way beyond my knowledge, but it does seem that there are a few fake Steuben marks about.
If this page has been posted before, please ignore it and me too.

:wink: