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Author Topic: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.  (Read 3584 times)

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Offline Paul S.

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Re: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2017, 05:26:25 PM »
quote today from m   ...............   "but is Christine's here no 4 maybe?" ...........     possibly m, but in the absence of corroborating information in the form of dimensions - details of which are not shown on the original factory catalogue page -  then we can't be sure  -  there are probably at least two insulator designs with an octagonal profile - Christine's and your own example.     I suspect that either yours or Christine's are possibly PV, but we may never know  -  understandably, mass produced utility items such as insulators were never going to be considered worthy of much detailed attention, and the majority I see are without any Rd. data.

Neil was asked for his opinion back in 2012 when Christine posted her insulator, and he gave the following comments............
 
"The only thing I can add - there are some categories of pressed pieces, such as tumblers, where trying to identify the glassworks is virtually impossible as the designs tended to be common and unremarkable. I guess you have to decide if piano insulators fall into that category or whether you think it's realistic to attribute them to a glassworks, when one finds an unregistered piece which matches a catalogue image.

To give an example of the problem, I have two early plates which appear in the Molineaux Webb catalogue - a Queen Victoria coronation plate, and a lacy Sandwich style plate. I would dearly like to be 100% sure my plates are by Molineaux Webb, but realistically, I know other glassworks were likely producing the same item, or with slight variations. I can prove Molineaux Webb used the pattern, but I can't prove nobody else did - and that's with a complex plate design.""

I've seen very few Registered designs in the Kew archives.

Offline neilh

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Re: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 06:52:36 PM »
If you type "piano insulator" uranium in google images, you see a few possibles... one looks like a match for pattern 9 in the Percival Vickers set.

Maybe the most interesting on the pattern sheet is number 6. It does not come out well on the image but it looks like a ram's head, reminding me of the bull's head registered design from the Derbyshires in 1877.

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Re: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 07:30:10 PM »
thanks Neil  .......    I'm not as well informed, on pressed glass in general, as most of you guys, so not really aware if there might be any National Archive images of these things that would be of use to the Board's archives, that currently we don't have here.         If you - or anyone else for that matter - know of any original drawings from the lozenge period that could be of use, let me know and I'll do best to upload.

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Re: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2018, 08:18:39 PM »
Hi, here are some photos of what we have for rd 357730, it's 4 inches across and weighs in around 600 grams. If you would like more piccies please let me know.
Cheers Mike
Under a UV light it looks like something from Dr Who :)

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Re: Percival Vickers Reg. 357730.
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2018, 02:25:15 PM »
Other colours for reference.
 :)

 

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