Topic: Mold Blown Glass Decanter - Age?

[MatW]

Hello,
would you think this is an old one, and if yes, how old? It has a chipped pontil mark, some seeds and stirations. Thank you for your thoughts!
Mat

[MatW]

Size is 18.5 cm.

[Paul S.]

hello Mat  -  thoughts is possibly about all you're going to get  -  bottles were made in unbelievable profusion just about everywhere - and shape wise this is not run of the mill, it's unusual, and not easy to pigeon-hole - believe the French did something that's referred to as a 'shoulder' - quite likely not British.         
Colour is possibly either turquoise or aquamarine possibly, which might suggest Bohemian or French.             Date wise it's a bit of a puzzle  -  doesn't look to be nouveau in design, yet could well be 1850 - 1920.
Can't see from your pix if there is any wear within the neck opening - evidence of a stopper - which obviously you don't have anyway - but wondering whether this might have been a carafe rather than a stoppered decanter - although believe most carafes were made without a disc rim, so this likely to be a stoppered bottle.                                  The disk shaped rim looks irregular which probably means lower quality.
Is there much base wear?

Let's hope others can offer better information.

[MatW]

Thank you Paul, there is no wear in the neck, so maybe it is indeed rather a carafe.  On the base there is quite some wear. The colour is aquamarine I believe.
Regards, Mat

[Paul S.]

so many bottles remain without provenance/origin, which is possibly a reason a lot of people ignore them - so many designs and shapes and origins - it can be discouraging.
However, the colour of this one lifts it above the norm - it's an attractive piece and irrespective of the absent stopper makes for a decorative item in its own right - up on a shelf with one or two other blue ish pieces - perhaps with some subtle lighting.
If the inside is dirty you could try the Magic Balls - they may well improve the clarity/brightness of the glass.

[pamela]

My first thought was that this beauty is missing its tumbler/drinking glass to be placed upside down on top - securely held by the shoulder?
Known as bed-side water carafe.
Sorry, can't contribute regarding origin and age.

[Paul S.]

Pamela is possibly correct  -  in English these things were known as 'tumble ups' - 'carafe and tumbler' - 'guest water bottle and tumbler', and are now often missing their tumbler   -  date wise more likely to be c. 1880 ish to 1930s even.
They are sometimes decorated, but mostly just made in clear glass, so this one is a bit special.          If you try the Board's search you should find quite a bit of chat on the subject.

[MatW]

Thank you Pamela and Paul, that theory sounds quite convincing!

[pamela]

None is exactly like yours, but this is how they looked: (german word is ' Sturzflasche ')

Bohemia:
Reich 1880 
Rindskopf 1915
Stölzle 1878

France:
Legras 1899
Choisy-Le-Roi 1916
LeBlanc 1897

Good luck in finding a matching tumbler and/or even the plate, however, if you study more of these catalogues on my pages you will notice, that these water carafes were always also offered as a single item - no stopper, no tumbler, no under-plate! 

[MatW]

Vielen herzlichen Dank Pamela! If I do not find a matching tumbler I will persuade myself that this piece never had one!