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Offline millarart

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caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« on: March 17, 2017, 08:01:07 AM »
purchased a lovely Caithness silver fob hallmarked 1972, which according to the scotlands glass site would mean Paul Ysart made the stone as frank has it listed that Paul made them between 1970 to 73 after which Peter Holmes made them 73 to 75 but Frank has said that its likely  Peter Holmes stone so im confused ,
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 05:34:06 PM »
My guess is that it is a Paul Ysart "stone". The colours seem more like PY work rather than Peter Holmes. But some of Peter's "stones" do look to be much like Paul's.

For interest, see also: Paul Ysart Stones - Caithness jewellery where the difficulty in dating the "stones" (and the date that the Harland works began) is highlighted.
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2017, 06:06:32 PM »
thanks Kev il just have to keep looking and see if I can match the stone up to some of Pauls or Peters
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 12:08:12 PM »
Ysart and Caithness turned out quite the diverse materials in a combo jewelry line and barware etc.

Here are three that we have in our collection.


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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 03:36:33 PM »
very nice tan today, I have a few pendants and earrings
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 09:57:53 PM »
Tan Today, could you please say what you meant by:
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Ysart and Caithness turned out quite the diverse materials in a combo jewelry line and barware etc.

Are you saying that there was Caithness barware using millefiori decoration? My knowledge in this area only goes as far as things connected to paperweights and the millefiori "stones" in the jewellery.
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 01:22:21 PM »
Kevin, sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but in response to "barware" Ysart by Caithness.

I have seen various items over the years, but reviewing our collection, I noticed that we have a STERLING SILVER mixing spoon with a Cabochon style millefiori by Ysart. Overall length is 4 1/4" on the reverse is the Caithness imprint.


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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 04:08:20 PM »
did Paul Ysart make stones with a central thistle ?
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 06:50:17 PM »
I am not aware of any thistle canes like the one in the spoon being made by Paul Ysart. And as far as I am aware, Peter Holmes did not make thistle canes when he took over the making of "stones", in the Ysart style, for jewellery after Paul Ysart left Caithnes Glass.

After Peter Holmes left Caithness Glass in 1977 (to set up Selkirk Glass) the "stones" changed to different, and simpler, designs and with different colours - looking much "weaker" in my view. The later "stones" were certainly used in items such as spoons and thimbles.

Also, my understanding is that there were short periods of overlap in the stock of "stones" after Paul Ysart and Peter Holmes left Caithness. So it is feasible that some "stones" of the general Ysart style could have been used in the later items; however I have not seen any examples myself - and the number of spoons and thimbles I have seen is quite low.
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Re: caithness silver fob but who made the stone?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 01:41:26 PM »
Just to further clarify the "stone" here is a close up for better visualization.


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