No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Mdina button top fish vase  (Read 231 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline chilternhills

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
    • Isle of Wight glass
    • UK
    • Isle of Wight Studio Glass Enthusiasts Site
Mdina button top fish vase
« on: August 26, 2017, 12:49:36 PM »
Just to share a picture of the latest addition to Isle of Wight Glass Museum: a cobalt blue Mdina button-top fish vase, almost certainly made by Michael Harris. It was probably made early in 1969. The vase is 18.5 cm wide and 14 cm tall and has the characteristic V shaped indentation caused by a paddle when shaping the piece. I know of a couple more in collector's hands, but it is a rare piece. It will be in the museum cabinets soon for all to enjoy.  ;D

Anton

Visit my Isle of Wight Studio Glass enthusiasts' site at http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com and also Isle of Wight Museum of Glass at http://www.isleofwightglassmuseum.org.uk/

Offline Vitreo94

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 55
  • Gender: Male
    • Mdina and Isle of Wight Glass
    • Kent
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2017, 01:15:56 PM »
Ah, now I know who was outbidding me  ;) a fine fish vase indeed, absolutely stunning! Congratulations and I look forward to seeing it where it belongs (though I hate to say it ;) ) in November when I visit!

Offline chopin-liszt

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 11122
    • Scotland
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2017, 01:27:56 PM »
The v-shape isn't created by paddles, it is created by dipping the sides of the gather into the hot glass in the pot. The v shape appears where the gathers don't meet in the middle. :)
Cheers, Sue (M)
"The really smart people know enough to know that there's too much that they don't know for them to be arrogant about the little they do know."
Prof. Ron Davis OMF

Offline chilternhills

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
    • Isle of Wight glass
    • UK
    • Isle of Wight Studio Glass Enthusiasts Site
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2017, 01:51:47 PM »
Yes, you are right. What I meant to say was paddles are used to shape the heavy wings on each side, which in the process creates a V shape in the middle. I missed one word out: "by using a paddle when shaping the piece"

I look forward to seeing you in November. I hope to give a tour of the museum after the IOWSG collectors event.
Visit my Isle of Wight Studio Glass enthusiasts' site at http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com and also Isle of Wight Museum of Glass at http://www.isleofwightglassmuseum.org.uk/

Offline glassobsessed

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 5282
  • Gender: Male
    • Mdina
    • South Wales
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2017, 02:55:05 PM »
I wondered who won this one, well done Anton. If you ever get bored of it let me know!

For what it is worth it does not look like the cobalt blue to me.

More early fish vases here, the large example on page two is exceptional:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,55865.0.html

John

Offline chilternhills

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
    • Isle of Wight glass
    • UK
    • Isle of Wight Studio Glass Enthusiasts Site
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 03:13:34 PM »
The colour of the vase is identical to the one shown on page 31 of Mark Hill's book and he calls it cobalt blue. The colour rendering in the book is probably accurate. To me the posted picture is the same too.
Visit my Isle of Wight Studio Glass enthusiasts' site at http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com and also Isle of Wight Museum of Glass at http://www.isleofwightglassmuseum.org.uk/

Offline glassobsessed

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 5282
  • Gender: Male
    • Mdina
    • South Wales
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 05:08:22 PM »
We have discussed which blue is cobalt a few times, it is not made easy by many digital cameras having limitations when it comes to differentiating between blues.

My old camera could not tell the difference between the two blues in the following fish vase, the new camera makes a much better job of it. The central bubble is the typical pale blue that is more often found, the wings were formed by two dips in cobalt blue. The cobalt blue has a purple hue, when you have a piece with cobalt in your hand it makes it much easier to see the difference.

I suspect that fish vase on page 31 is not actually cobalt blue (if so, not the first error in the book).

Offline chilternhills

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
    • Isle of Wight glass
    • UK
    • Isle of Wight Studio Glass Enthusiasts Site
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 05:17:59 PM »
Your vase looks the same colour as mine. I think the difference in apparent blueness is that your vase is backlit whereas I laid my vase down on a piece of white paper to take the photo. The blue looks darker on mine as a consequence.
Visit my Isle of Wight Studio Glass enthusiasts' site at http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com and also Isle of Wight Museum of Glass at http://www.isleofwightglassmuseum.org.uk/

Offline glassobsessed

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 5282
  • Gender: Male
    • Mdina
    • South Wales
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2017, 05:55:44 PM »
Take a backlit photo and see then. It is not a question of how dark the blue is, it is the colour or hue of the blue that is different.

Offline chilternhills

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
    • Isle of Wight glass
    • UK
    • Isle of Wight Studio Glass Enthusiasts Site
Re: Mdina button top fish vase
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 06:40:30 PM »
That is what I was trying to say. The hue of your vase is the same as mine.
Visit my Isle of Wight Studio Glass enthusiasts' site at http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com and also Isle of Wight Museum of Glass at http://www.isleofwightglassmuseum.org.uk/

 

Look for glass on
ebay.co.uk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Look for glass on
ebay.com (us)
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand